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Old April 12th, 2011, 01:53   #1
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Gas gun randomly shoots full auto?

I don't seem to have access to the gun doctor forum yet, so I will ask this here.

A friend of mine who isn't on here yet has a Skeleton Sidearms gas pistol (Sig P226, said to be a TM clone) and what happens is that sometimes when you pull the trigger, it will shoot once as expected, and sometimes it will fire like 4-5 rounds at a time as if it's full auto. It's about 50/50 how often it happens. Neither of us really know enough about these yet to have any idea. Mine works fine and we can't find any obvious differences between the two.

I searched on here for things like "full auto problem" and found one issue of a magazine valve being stuck. Is that always the most likely culprit? Next time we're together I will try my mag in his gun, but until then.. Any other ideas?
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Old April 12th, 2011, 04:08   #2
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If your mag has the same effect, take a look at the trigger, hammer and striker assembly on your friends guns. One of those could be worn out and is slipping during normal use. On a related maintenance note, check your outer barrel, I've seen two similar guns have the outerbarrel disconnect from the ejection port cover, rendering them useless.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 11:10   #3
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Ok, thanks, we'll check it out. His is fairly new though, so I can't see it being anything worn, but maybe one of the parts wasn't made right or something...
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Old April 12th, 2011, 14:01   #4
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It's because the Skeleton Sidearms 226 is a piece of shit.
And no, I'm not exaggerating.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 15:22   #5
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i know, but we got both for just over $100 so..
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Old April 12th, 2011, 20:12   #6
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That was still too much.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 21:47   #7
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Hmm.. Well, they are supposed to be TM knockoffs, but obviously they have QC issues. At least it wasn't an expensive risk to take. I'll tell my buddy he's probably SOL and most people don't want to help out.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 22:02   #8
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It's not a mater on not wanting to help; there is just no help to be had.

It's generous to call that thing a paperweight.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 22:28   #9
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No, I understand.

Ok, you know what, just for fun, let's pretend it was a more respected brand with the same problem. What would you suggest then? Or maybe there's a reason this problem seems so uncommon, lol..
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Old April 12th, 2011, 22:51   #10
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If it was a decent brand it would not have that problem, that's the whole point. I'm not sure if the problem is uncommon or not, but that gun is fairly new to Canada.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 22:55   #11
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Yeah, that's what I meant by maybe there's a reason this problem seems so uncommon.. Well, mine seems fine for now, I guess I'm lucky. We'll see how it stands the test of time.. If nothing else, it was a good learning experience for $60.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 22:57   #12
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Because the gun is so cheap, your friend should be expecting it to have problems, even if it's brand new. I don't know too much people working on those guns as the work will cost more than the gun itself. But I'm guessing the sear or hammer is worn.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 00:12   #13
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You and your buddy can start swapping parts. Slides, mags, BBUs and so on.

With any luck you'll figure out what's wrong and come up with two working pistols. If you arent' lucky you may wind up with two dead pistols though.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 19:33   #14
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Hey sorry to revive this, not sure if anyone cares, i would say it is a problem with the magazine's valve sticking, i have a SS 226, no real problems with it, except for that, one mag would fire a few extra rounds per trigger pull, the other didnt, clearly a magazine problem, a little bit of lube on the valve to stop it from sticking in the open position, and viola, no more full auto (although i did find it a little fun to have a 3rd burst GBB)

this worked for me, hopefully it helps your friend, did you ever actually try swapping mags? who knows maybe you do have a bigger problem, just my 2 cents
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Old May 6th, 2011, 20:43   #15
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The problem is related to the trigger catch that holds the knocker. Its worn down and only catches some of time. Not worth the trouble to fix those pistols are garbage.
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