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Old January 26th, 2011, 12:57   #76
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Would the Whitby Psychiatric Hospital be a property to turn into an airsoft field? I know we're dreaming and all but if we did have the money, this would probably be a decent property with 50+ buildings, walls to keep out the eyes of nosy neighbours, and lots of places to explore.

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wow thats neat! I love old buildings and shit like that. Always wanted to go explore the one on the coast as well.


Airsoft in there would be fun, how ever so many things would need to be cleaned up first to make it safe.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:09   #77
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The idea of shipping containers was only for a business. As a community effort, only something out of plywood or recuperated material is realistic, and even then it would just look like another paintball field (so with "walls", and not "buildings"...)

Just to elaborate (I know, it's useless, but I'm on break so while we're at it...)
Cost of a used shipping container: ~1300-1500$
Transport (estimate): 200$, depending on the location
Average entry fees for "vanilla" (unbuilt, mostly natural) private fields: 25$ (which is almost 100% profit in most cases where no props were bought)
Average entry fees for built-up paintball fees: 35$
Average attendance for "basic" games in the montreal area: 70 players

So... let's say 70 players x 30$ = 2100$ for one game (average)
2100$ x 10 games in the year = 21 000$
21 000$ / 1 500$ = 14 containers

Now I'm not an organiser so I may have forgot some fees... yes a small compensation for setting up the game is reasonable to the organisers and property owner, but not 2100$ par game IMHO. So if I didn't screw up my estimates.... that's realistic.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:13   #78
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The idea of shipping containers was only for a business. As a community effort, only something out of plywood or recuperated material is realistic, and even then it would just look like another paintball field (so with "walls", and not "buildings"...)

Just to elaborate (I know, it's useless, but I'm on break so while we're at it...)
Cost of a used shipping container: ~1300-1500$
Transport (estimate): 200$, depending on the location
Average entry fees for "vanilla" (unbuilt, mostly natural) private fields: 25$ (which is almost 100% profit in most cases where no props were bought)
Average entry fees for built-up paintball fees: 35$
Average attendance for "basic" games in the montreal area: 70 players

So... let's say 70 players x 30$ = 2100$ for one game (average)
2100$ x 10 games in the summer = 21 000$
21 000$ / 1 500$ = 14 containers

Now I'm not an organiser so I may have forgot some fees... yes a small compensation for setting up the game is reasonable to the organisers and property owner, but not 2100$ par game IMHO. So if I didn't screw up my estimates.... that's realistic.
yeah totally, but that would mean someone KNOWN (for maximum attendance to his games) that would be willing to put a 21000$ on the table. + having a field with all the specifications said above... also you'd need some tools to cut through the containers and some work to make a nice field...

if someone is comfortable with that much money WHAT THE HECK is he waiting for to do it
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:20   #79
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Oh yeah I know it's as likely to happen as Normand l'Amour becoming prime minister... But what... what if?

(and don't quote whole posts especially if it's the one right before yours)

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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:34   #80
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Less than a game a month? pfft. I would do one every two weeks but have a few major events. That way you'd likely get more income. This is an exclusive airsoft field right?

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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:40   #81
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What if we created an "Airsoft Canada Club" kind of thing, get it designated as a Non-Profit Organization (so it doesn't get taxed) and then buy a plot of land. Make a yearly membership fee and a "visitor" fee to put some money in the club's bank account, and instead of running it like a "for profit" field, have members pitch in and volunteer to get things done like erecting buildings and other such tasks. This means that you could start with an empty field, and 40% the revenue gained to improve it (assuming you save 10% in the bank), other half goes to paying off the bank loan for the field and other expenses; as time goes on and more members join, you should have more and more capital to improve the field
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:47   #82
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What if we created an "Airsoft Canada Club" kind of thing, get it designated as a Non-Profit Organization (so it doesn't get taxed) and then buy a plot of land. Make a yearly membership fee and a "visitor" fee to put some money in the club's bank account, and instead of running it like a "for profit" field, have members pitch in and volunteer to get things done like erecting buildings and other such tasks. This means that you could start with an empty field, and 40% the revenue gained to improve it (assuming you save 10% in the bank), other half goes to paying off the bank loan for the field and other expenses; as time goes on and more members join, you should have more and more capital to improve the field
This does seem to make more sense, if we're talking outside Quebec here. But Canada is a big ass country so we'd likely have to do a regional thing you know? Because I'm not gonna be likely to drive to Ottawa very often for games. I'd love to but I'm not rich. And I think there would need to be VERY dedicated and trusted members to run the show. And they'd have to be willing to take on the extra workload of an NPO.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:49   #83
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That just won't happen. Would be cool- but won't happen. Too much administration, too much collective risk as a community.

That's why, from the begining, I'm saying the only way would be a private business.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 13:51   #84
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What if we created an "Airsoft Canada Club" kind of thing, get it designated as a Non-Profit Organization (so it doesn't get taxed) and then buy a plot of land. Make a yearly membership fee and a "visitor" fee to put some money in the club's bank account, and instead of running it like a "for profit" field, have members pitch in and volunteer to get things done like erecting buildings and other such tasks. This means that you could start with an empty field, and 40% the revenue gained to improve it (assuming you save 10% in the bank), other half goes to paying off the bank loan for the field and other expenses; as time goes on and more members join, you should have more and more capital to improve the field
leave it to an asian.... lol <3
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Old January 26th, 2011, 14:00   #85
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If you can provide the average price of an acre of land in your area, the amount of players near it, a rate of interest for a loan, and the rate of interest for a bank account, I can probably do some magic on an Excel spreadsheet.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 16:30   #86
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wow... you guys are just bringing in the ideas, i like this. Flooring sheets arent very expensive (2$ per 3 square feet back in the states), and a bundle of two by fours is all that be needed for sufficient cover, though this is just an idea, this has a lot of fruition to it
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Old January 26th, 2011, 16:58   #87
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Well if there are trees on the property, you can always cut a couple down and use them to make some "nests".
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Old January 26th, 2011, 17:06   #88
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Re-inventing the wheel

Places like the LZ in Eastern Ontario already have what you are looking for.

In Toronto.. Access to decommissioned Schools is nailed down. There are games weekly in such facilities here in Toronto.

Access to th decommissioned Prince Edward Heights Psychiatric Facility in Picton is also possible, with diligent effort.

You guys are sitting around talking wistfully about stuff that other people have already done and are doing.. Every week
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Old January 26th, 2011, 17:47   #89
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Well not so much in Quebec, I did research into this, theres a plethora of places scattered all around Canada, just not so many available places in Quebec, theres paint ball places, but I dont enjoy playing there
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Old January 26th, 2011, 19:22   #90
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There's a few abandoned military bases in the Laurentian mountains of Quebec like this old radar bunker in St Adolph. People explore the interior all the time. It's been converted into a theme park then it went bankrupt, thats why it looks like Dr Evils lair.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43211397@N00/252117498
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