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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:24   #16
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Maybe that's true, but just now I did some measurements with a meter-stick. The Dragonuv Tiger is around 109 cm long overall, and that's the sporter version of the soviet SVD. The Real Sword Type 79/85 on the other hand, is 129.5 cm long. Now, I may be 5' 10", but holding a 129.5 length meterstick (2 metersticks overlapping actually) felt really unwieldy and uncomfortable. However, once I shortened it to 109 cm, it felt perfect. However, holding the meterstick for too long my left hand got tired, and I'd imagine it'd be a nightmare to hold the real thing. I guess I better start working out so I won't be the lanky bloke that I am... *embarrassed*
there is a VERY VERY big difference between holding 2 meter sticks together and holding a RS SVD.....do not mistake a SVD for a meter stick
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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:27   #17
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The real sword SVD is semi automatic only so you will be at a major disadvantage when you engage foes with automatics not to mention a small magazine. The type 56-2 or type 97 would be my suggestion for PLA unit. The type 56-2 being the cheapest costing around $550 and up and the Type 97 at $700 and up.
Hmm, well with a fast trigger pull the fully-automatic feature can be replicated. So far I can tap at a RoF of 400 taps per minute. Compared to 600 rounds per minute of an AK, I'd say it's not too bad considering I can still get faster with practice. The only problem tho would be the fact that I'd get finger cramps if I keep at it. I'd get tired sooner or later unless I conserve my ammo and only do short bursts.

Oh yea, I was considering a type 97 but the lack of trigger guard/grip and awkward mag well+stanmag turned me off that rifle. Plus, even the QBZ-95 have already been phased out by the new QBZ-95G. It's got a lower carrying handle so soldiers won't have to expose as much head to aim, the fire selector was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (YES!!!), a standard picitinny rail was included, and the trigger guard's shape was redesigned. If anything, I'd rather have the QBU-88 sniper which was much better engineered from the get go. But god knows when it will come out, if ever... *cries*

And about the Type 56-2, the stock just looks, well, plain ugly in my opinion... It looks like it has an extra pistol grip on the butt of the rifle *laughs*

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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:38   #18
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i am telling you right now you can not achieve a fully automatic `tap`, this isnt paintball
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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:40   #19
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Realsword is never going to do a current issue PLA weapon I believe they got in trouble for the type 95 lower receiver. I've only seen RS SVDs in country for 1Grand so start saving cash.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:41   #20
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Type 56c's are still in Active PLA service :P
The type 56-2 can probably pass as a Type 81 assault rifle they still haven't been fully purged out of the PLA armoury. It is also the closest thing to a Type 03 until the Realsword does something about it. The realsword SVD is actually a chinese Type 79/85. For the sake of realism why shorten a SVD that comes from a former Norinco/ state owned factory.
Also, its not like I would WANT to shorten an SVD, in fact, I'd like to replicate a Chinese designated marksman as much as possible. But a full length SVD is just too long and unwieldy for my purposes... I mean, if I really was the DM for my squad and got the Type 85, (after raging for not getting the T88) I'd be half-tempted to get a hack saw and just take 20cm off (probably not smart either).

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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:43   #21
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i am telling you right now you can not achieve a fully automatic `tap`, this isnt paintball
Is this a gearbox problem or a trigger pull problem may I ask?

Oh yea, I was thinking if a semi-auto-> full auto conversion is possible with AEGs, along with GBBRs... I know you can convert a real semi-auto Type 56 for civilian export to full-auto with the use of a twist tie.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 21:57   #22
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well mby with a systema u could but....NO u rly dont want to do this its just silly!

ok here is what I see....you are really confused on if you want a sniper or AR....get an AR and if you get an AK for Armalite model you can easily make a DMR out of it.....no more of this paintball trigger tapping shit

there is a spool up delay in the gearbox, so yes there is a significant delay between when you pull the trigger and when the gun spits out the white thing....if you have a high torque gear set up, a softer spring and a high voltage battery you can minimize this..... systemas are also very good for trigger response.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 22:00   #23
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ack just get a JG SVD or a SVD conversion kit for AKs you will have full auto, semi and cut the barrel without braking the bank.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 22:04   #24
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i really think you should do a little more research into how AEGs work... it seems as if your knowledge of real weapons is fine but you dont seem to know fully how an AEG works...not saying you need to know everything but you should educate yourself a little more before you make a huge investment like that
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Old January 19th, 2011, 22:34   #25
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well mby with a systema u could but....NO u rly dont want to do this its just silly!

ok here is what I see....you are really confused on if you want a sniper or AR....get an AR and if you get an AK for Armalite model you can easily make a DMR out of it.....no more of this paintball trigger tapping shit

there is a spool up delay in the gearbox, so yes there is a significant delay between when you pull the trigger and when the gun spits out the white thing....if you have a high torque gear set up, a softer spring and a high voltage battery you can minimize this..... systemas are also very good for trigger response.
I did a bit more reading and apparently every gun is different so I'd have to know it inside out before I can modify it. Paradox is I wanna buy it if I can mod it but to know if I can mod it I'd have to buy it.

Also, I don't think its silly, I mean being able to tap 2 rounds is highly advantageous unless there's something I'm missing here regarding the mechanics...

And I wouldn't exactlly call myself confused as to whether or not I'd want a sniper or an AR... I just want a DMR, something in-between a sniper and AR. Maybe just ignorant as to how airsoft battles run due to inexperience, but I think I know what I want...

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i really think you should do a little more research into how AEGs work... it seems as if your knowledge of real weapons is fine but you dont seem to know fully how an AEG works...not saying you need to know everything but you should educate yourself a little more before you make a huge investment like that
Yea, I'd like to know how AEG work myself, but not having a real thing for me to take apart and play with really limits my ability to know how they work...

I mean, to be honest I'm still months or even years away from actually being able to buy a $1200 rifle. I would definitely have a better idea when that time comes. This is just a starting point for me to ask general questions for now.

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ack just get a JG SVD or a SVD conversion kit for AKs you will have full auto, semi and cut the barrel without braking the bank.
Do you know if JG SVDs are accurate straight out of the box? or would I have to upgrade it to get RS SVD's performance? Because I heard upgrades often cost hundreds of dollars... And conversion kits... mehhh...
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Old January 19th, 2011, 22:53   #26
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there is a VERY VERY big difference between holding 2 meter sticks together and holding a RS SVD.....do not mistake a SVD for a meter stick
They are overlapping, making it 129 centimeters long. And with a real SVD, I doubt it'd get any easier...

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i dont think anything SVD will ever come to close to a RS....they are fantastic. A RS SVD is not a DMR but I have seen many M16s turned into dmrs but it is a lot of work because of the stress the heavy springs cause on the mechox, this usually means all reinforced internals as well as a full metal body which can get pricy
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i dont think anything SVD will ever come to close to a RS....they are fantastic. A RS SVD is not a DMR but I have seen many M16s turned into dmrs but it is a lot of work because of the stress the heavy springs cause on the mechox, this usually means all reinforced internals as well as a full metal body which can get pricy
I see, so I'm back to square one, with the RS SVD and my intention of modding it. Well, its not so bad since I've learned a couple of new things from you guys lol

Edit: I also found out while researching that GBBR and GBB pistols could be modified to full auto by filing a part down, but it's not recommended since some parts wear out faster.

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Old January 19th, 2011, 23:05   #29
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RS SVDs are good the way they are....back to square one

if you get one and mod it like u want to I will find you kill you and kindly return the gun to its natural state and release it into the wild...
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RS SVDs are good the way they are....back to square one

if you get one and mod it like u want to I will find you kill you and kindly return the gun to its natural state and release it into the wild...
Haha... I thought it's getting a gun that suits the user's needs, not the other way around... I mean, we domesticate horses and dogs for our own selfish needs, why not do the same with an AEG? :> Anyways, being the curious dude that I am, by the time I would've owned an RS SVD stock for around a year, I would probably know it inside-out. And since I won't be planning on buying anymore AEGs, I would probably play with its internals here or there...

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