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Old December 3rd, 2010, 15:07   #16
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Yeah but for how long?
hahah yea really... im sure i could put in a 600 FPS spring into my gun but im sure that within 30 shots it would have exploded hahaha
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Old December 5th, 2010, 22:55   #17
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I'm sure the guys at Echo 1 did the math/engineering calculations. Really anyone with the right software could... No sense selling something that is guaranteed to fail and then get ripped apart on a consumer thread such as this one.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 22:59   #18
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A clone company is a clone company.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Echo1 just rebrands.

So this could be anything.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 23:39   #19
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They tinker. I guess the question is how qualified are they to do that
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Old December 6th, 2010, 00:22   #20
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Well in the past BA's with a plastic piston and a VSR trigger set-up often ended up slam firing.

This gun has both of those items, logic says it will slam fire.

My question is why not just put a metal piston in the gun, when you as the maker of the gun know the history of the VSR clones? Could it be as simple as "why bother when the target buyers will just replace it anyways"?
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Old December 6th, 2010, 00:58   #21
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Sweet. Let us know if it has a metal "receiver", and ,if possible, let us know if it is parts compatible with any of the usual BA's (TM VSR 10, CA M24, or APS2)?
Hopefully not the VSR 10, considering the slam fire issue can only be remedied with a zero trigger set up, which is no longer manufactured. But if it is CA M24 compatible, you might see these flying off the shelf.

BTW, enjoy your holidays.

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Slam fire can also be prevented by the V-trigger which is still in production
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Old December 6th, 2010, 02:32   #22
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A clone company is a clone company.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Echo1 just rebrands.

So this could be anything.
Yes they do but they also have the companies add better parts (or in some cases cheaper parts to bring cost down)to the rebrands then put there name on it.

so yes echo 1 does rebrand but you get better quality then say the JG or CYMA original. Just like how TSD rebrands the SRC guns but with cheaper parts to keep price lower.

I hope that someone who has delt with alot of BA's in the past gets there hands on this to give us some insite on the quality of the stock internals.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 00:26   #23
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Airsoft GI has a video review of it here:
YouTube - Airsoft GI - Echo 1 M28 Bolt Action Spring Sniper Rifle

It's certainly not a rebrand. Shooting 517-524 FPS.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 01:09   #24
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Slam fire can also be prevented by the V-trigger which is still in production
Oooo, oooo, OOOO.....great to know bro. Not really for me (VSRs have that unnaturally plastic feeling to them), but I know sooooo many peeps who are trying to solve this issue.

I still love my APS2 EX, and I'll probably be buried with the damn thing.

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Old December 7th, 2010, 03:08   #25
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I have got to do a preliminary check of said rifle. Right off the bat, the stock doesn't feel near as nice as I remember the CA stocks feeling. There is also a visible seam down the middle of it. The magazines are a proprietary design, and don't fit APS, VSR, or Type 96 magazines. The bolt is slick and easy to pull back, even when not lubed. And the trigger is very light with a nice crisp let off.

I am supposed to do a review of it over the next two weeks if there is time. I will keep you all posted.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 03:23   #26
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For anyone that cares, I had time today to do some more testing with the rifle. At approximately 30 feet using Green Devil .2g BBs (25 BBs), I managed to shoot a 4" grouping with a Bushnell Buckmaster 3-9x30 scope that was not sighted in. This was done using a box as a rest, no bipod, and keeping the exact same point of aim with the hop up at half.

The chronograph results averaged approximately 460 fps. With the highest shot being 473 and the lowest being 446 fps (no hop up and 15 rounds fired).

The only major downside I found was that using the supplied magazine, I had to hold the magazine into the gun for it to feed reliably. There was also a very noticeble twang of the barrel after every shot during the accuracy shoot.

The hop up is adjusted the same as the TM VSR, and I will confirm or deny the fact that it may or may not be a VSR hop up unit tomorrow or Friday if I can find the time to strip the gun down.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 23:43   #27
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The chronograph results averaged approximately 460 fps. With the highest shot being 473 and the lowest being 446 fps (no hop up and 15 rounds fired).
seems a bit extreme having nearly 30fps difference. if you have time, can you drop in a spring that is known to be consistent?
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Old December 11th, 2010, 20:11   #28
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For those interested I emailed Echo 1 who confirmed that at least the piston and sear assemblies are VSR compatible.
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Old December 12th, 2010, 16:17   #29
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I've ordered one to see what all of the fuss is about.
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Old December 12th, 2010, 22:35   #30
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Can't wait to hear more about it.
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