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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:47   #1
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Blow back effects aim?

I've seen a couple of videos online and all, but I was wondering, if you shoot a blow back gun in automatic or 3 round burst, does it effect the aim of the shooter? I.E. The kick back causes the shooter to shoot above their target?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:49   #2
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what do you think will happen if the gun kicks back while you're trying to aim? do you think you'll aim better or you'll be firing all over the place?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:51   #3
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not above, but innacurately for sure
it goes to about the same level, not above, because the slide goes back, and while moving back it pushes the frame forward(newtons law, each force creates an opposite reaction), then it hits all the way back and pushed the frame far back again, then the spring pushed the slide forward further pushing the frame back, then the slide hits front pulling it back forward again back to where it started, but obviously it wont end up precisely where it was aiming before, so it wont be accurate unless you are an experience shooter
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:52   #4
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Um. Yes.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:53   #5
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It depends on the gun. If you're talking about AEGs, then the blowback effect can barely be felt. The part that's moving is so light it really has no perceivable effect.

On a good GBBr with strong recoil, it will have some effect on your aim. But it's not like we're talking real steel recoil here, so the effects are pretty negligable when it comes to tagging a man-size target at 50-100ft. It's easily compensated for. Wind and air currents will still play a much bigger part in your accuracy than the recoil will..
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 00:58   #6
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I was mostly thinking about real steel but I guess this is in the airsoft section, not off topic. He didn't really specify anything though.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 02:11   #7
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The WE M14 is actually pretty hard to control on full auto due to that bolt slamming back and forth, but thats about it. As others said above its pretty minimal on an AEG.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:29   #8
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I haven't gamed my WE SCAR yet but the recoil is manageable, not enough recoil to prevent you from hitting a target every time in full auto at any rate...
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:51   #9
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To be honest, I've got a pair of TF Mac11's. They're CO2 powered full auto GBBs. The blowback effect actually makes a huge impact on how accurate these are.

Which is to say, they're completely NOT. They're nothing more than short range sweeper weapons designed for rapidly unloading a huge cloud of bbs in the general direction of your target at an insane RoF. The lightweight of the weapons in conjunction with the rapidly repetitive force of the actions in them results in less accuracy. Which doesn't matter, because they're hilariously awesome to fire.

But for airsoft purposes, it doesn't make a difference anyway.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:11   #10
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The WE M14 is actually pretty hard to control on full auto due to that bolt slamming back and forth, but thats about it. As others said above its pretty minimal on an AEG.
Heh...try a real M14 ... .308 on full auto is reserved for FUN not accuracy :P
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 14:13   #11
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Haha, I know , I shoot a freinds Norinco regularily.

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Old November 3rd, 2010, 14:32   #12
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To be honest, I've got a pair of TF Mac11's. They're CO2 powered full auto GBBs. The blowback effect actually makes a huge impact on how accurate these are.
I'll second that. I have a TF11 and that little fucker jumps around like mad on full auto. The lightweight gun combined with a very, very strong blowback does indeed affect accuracy. This is one gun that really has to be used in short, controlled bursts to maintain any accuracy.

Other examples of my GBBs:

MP7 - recoil is minimal due to the heavy weight of the gun. Recoil effect on accuracy is negligible within the gun's effect range of about 100 feet on full auto.

WA MP5 - normally a very lightweight gun, but I have a full metal Nitro rail kit that weighs it down significantly, minimizing the effect of recoil on accuracy.

Inokatsu M4 Super: Has the heavyweight steel RA-Tech bolt and kicks like a mofo. At less than 50 feet, the effect of the recoil (in auto) is negligible for a man-size target. Beyond that, you have to use semi or controlled 3 round burts to maintain the same accuracy.

WE PDW (open bolt). While the both is fairly heavy and has a nice kick (although nowhere near that of the Inokatsu), the gun is rather front-heavy, so the recoil also has minimal impact on accuracy within the guns effective range.
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