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Old October 30th, 2010, 11:56   #16
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DBoys is definitely debatable, but CA and G&G are definately better quality, both internally and externally. Especially the G&G MAX line and the CA Proline.

I give Dboys points for not having plastic bodies, body screws, and fake wood on their AK line.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 11:58   #17
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While that may be, you have to say that. If hes new, and googles those two, chances are hes going to go for the Sportline or Lower end G&G line, which definately are worse than TM.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:26   #18
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Steven You do realize TM is just the industry standard right; just because they started the whole thing doesn’t mean they will always be the best gun available on the market. Most of the "other" brands Kid Posted are actually better out of the box. Tm is mainly made for the Japanese market; i doubt tm cares as much as the "other" airsoft companies on there exported products. I would rather buy a NEW G&G than buy a TM and have to upgrade the gun right off the bat to be at par with most "other" brands.

I've owed two TM's and i personally did not enjoy them with great content, in my opinion it’s more of a brand name than anything else now.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:30   #19
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TM is pretty much lowest quality out there just with good quality control. If you can work on your own guns ANYTHING is a better choice.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:36   #20
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Yet TM are very reliable, and can go for 50,000+ rounds stock. I dont think G&G can do that? Its not the gun, its the player. So a Stock TM that will last for years, will do just as good as a G&G max.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:38   #21
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I personally find the clone models great I have used them and know people with them and can be pretty good were as my friend had a TM p90, It broke after a few games.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:38   #22
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Even plastic mechbox guns have been tested to fire 200k+ rounds before failing.

Stock TM will bend and creak when you put a sling on it, and break when you fall on it.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:43   #23
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maybe because they shoot so slow. 280 fps. CYMA Krakens last just as Long and shoot 350 fps at half the price. AngleusNex made the point very clear and stated it well.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:46   #24
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Yet TM are very reliable, and can go for 50,000+ rounds stock. I dont think G&G can do that? Its not the gun, its the player. So a Stock TM that will last for years, will do just as good as a G&G max.
wrong. I have a G&G CAS M16. been running it on a lipo, only thing i've done to the gun is add deans connectors, so it's still stock, and it'd had well over 30 000 round through it without me opening the mechbox once.

Personal experience trumps reading stuff and my personal experience is that TM is very blah.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:46   #25
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I'd rather spend 250 roughly on something like a cyma ak-47 than a TM ak-47. Because i know for my friend when his TM p90 broke, it took him ages to find a spare part but when my other friends CYMA ak-47 broke it took him 5 days to find the part and fix it himself
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:48   #26
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I'd rather spend 250 roughly on something like a cyma ak-47 than a TM ak-47. Because i know for my friend when his TM p90 broke, it took him ages to find a spare part but when my other friends CYMA ak-47 broke it took him 5 days to find the part and fix it himself
apples and oranges. P90s have more proprietary parts while AKs are very popular. The CYMA is based on the TM design.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:50   #27
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Ch'yeah i learnt something new
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Old October 30th, 2010, 13:13   #28
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Except for there gbb pistols (1911, hicapa, glock....) , TM is a big ''Meh'' for me....lol
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Old October 30th, 2010, 18:29   #29
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Anyone who think a clone gun's mechbox is on par with TM is on crack.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 18:56   #30
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this thread is full of retard....
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