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Old October 17th, 2010, 15:32   #16
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+1 on the TM P226
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Old October 17th, 2010, 18:37   #17
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my WE dragon is horrid. Its in pieces right now in a bag because just way to many issues with it. Plus I also have a mac11 for a side arm so pfft who needs a single s hot pistol lol.

On the other hand my WE scar has been pretty good, aside from 3/5 co2 mags are now leaking They made the spring on the valve to weak and after shooting it a while it compresses and doesn't seal well.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 23:35   #18
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Interesting info, certainly good things to know. I got a chance to look at the box today, it is infact a Cybergun P226 full metal blowback.

As far as GBBRs, perhaps I will do more research on KJW models instead.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 00:54   #19
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I bought a WE 50 rd mag for my Hicapa type R and it was leaking a bit right out of the box. That's really unacceptable for a brand new product.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:00   #20
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As far as GBBRs, perhaps I will do more research on KJW models instead.
Their GBBRs are fine, it is the pistols that are garbage.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:06   #21
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Should I have concerns about Cybergun's P226?
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:08   #22
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Other than it's a springer?
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:13   #23
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Other than it's a springer?
No, it's a gbb. It's this one: http://www.cybergun.com/en/products/...3067-p226.html
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:14   #24
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Cybergun is KJW, isn't it? Not even close to a WE. Especially since WE doesn't make a P226... gah, never mind.

If you read the responses again, WE GBBR's are supposedly pretty good?

And on the note of the P226, the KJW version is uh, a clone that doesn't clone properly. There is no mag compatibility with TM (TM mags are IMO the best you can get - balance of affordability with quality with performance... then again, I don't know squat about WA performance). Valve knocker tends to break on KJW's. Clones tend to have tolerances that fail, and thus you'll probably have a rattly pistol. KJW hop up arms and rubbers and barrels are not nearly as decent as their TM equivalents.

Seeing as you don't seem to read the words that others have taken the time to post in this thread of yours, I've bolded the only thing that you might actually listen to in this post.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:18   #25
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I've bolded the only thing that you might actually listen to in this post.
Not to sound condescending but does he even know what a valve knocker is since this would be his first GBB?
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:19   #26
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KJW doesn't make good pistols lol
Their GBBR is only awesome because it was designed by someone who doesn't work for them
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:30   #27
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Wow, I ask for info on WE products in general, as well as the pistol that was explained to be a WE product. Yes I was lied to about the pistol brand, whoop-dee-effin-doo. Get over yourselves, and just answer the questions. No need for the nerd-raging.

Yes, I know and understand most of the parts in a gas gun. It's not rocket science. Those that provided useful info, thanks. Those that just wanted to be f##k-tards, I guess thanks for the half-assed info?
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:39   #28
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Oh, local guy here who usually finds his way around his guns pretty decently had issues putting his P226 back together after getting a new valve knocker in there. Just FYI... figure out how it goes back together as you're taking it apart.

Also, nerd raging FTW. Welcome to ASC, especially when you post an idea up that doesn't make much sense (like asking about WE products then talking about a non-existent WE P226 then talking about how your P226 isn't a WE then talking about GBBR's and then talking about getting a KJW something then talking about the Cybergun/KJW P226).

Someone mentioned KJW's are crap - I beg to differ, I quite like KJW... in terms of their GBB pistols being clones. However, clones they still are. Their newer generations are getting better, that's for sure, but the tolerances (linked to performance) are still not on par with TM. Cheapness and semi-decent quality of metal make up for this though - KJW's just take work, assuming you're willing to put the work in. More so than a stock TM would, especially when it comes to reliability. If you don't mind technical headaches, then a KJW could work for you? lol, they're still better than WE's, IMO.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:48   #29
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Oh, local guy here who usually finds his way around his guns pretty decently had issues putting his P226 back together after getting a new valve knocker in there. Just FYI... figure out how it goes back together as you're taking it apart.
Yeah, the thread did jump all over the place.

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Also, nerd raging FTW. Welcome to ASC, especially when you post an idea up that doesn't make much sense (like asking about WE products then talking about a non-existent WE P226 then talking about how your P226 isn't a WE then talking about GBBR's and then talking about getting a KJW something then talking about the Cybergun/KJW P226).
Again, I did not have all the info on the gun. Going off the cuff with hersey info was permature for sure. I am still absolutely stunned that it was sold to my friend, (who is selling me the gun), advertised as a WE gun. Seeing people nerd-rage just makes me believe the site is not all it's cracked up to be.

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Someone mentioned KJW's are crap - I beg to differ, I quite like KJW... in terms of their GBB pistols being clones. However, clones they still are. Their newer generations are getting better, that's for sure, but the tolerances (linked to performance) are still not on par with TM. Cheapness and semi-decent quality of metal make up for this though - KJW's just take work, assuming you're willing to put the work in. More so than a stock TM would, especially when it comes to reliability. If you don't mind technical headaches, then a KJW could work for you? lol, they're still better than WE's, IMO.
lol, that basically applies to all non-TM guns. Some worse than others.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 02:07   #30
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lol, that basically applies to all non-TM guns. Some worse than others.
NO! KSC/KWA FTW!!! Their USP line is unmatched. Come to think of it, they make P226s as well. MUCH better than KJW! They mostly come with metal slides too, unlike TM.
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