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Old August 29th, 2010, 02:47   #16
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lol bastards are $10 for 2000 .20 and .25

2 x $10 = $20
2 x 2000 = 4000
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Old August 29th, 2010, 08:42   #17
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Also, when you make bulk purchases of 30 or more bags, you get a 10% discount.
Those who do that get $9 a bag, which make it one of the best BB deals going in Canada, especially given the quality. You also begin to appreciate that when you get up into the .28/.30g rounds.

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thats the same price as bastards, but madbulls are softer so can get dents in the mags and feed path causing innacuracy
And if it doesn't do damage, it comes out of your barrel with the flight characteristics of a wet noodle. Glad to see some people are observing the ever so slight differences that I've worked really hard to ensure BBBs fly straight and true.
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Old August 29th, 2010, 13:14   #18
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I tryed to cheap out buying 10 bag's for 100$ of BBB's and tested them side by side with Airsoft Elite/Metal Tech.

They both performed the same but the Airsoft Elite/Metal Tech grouping are a little tighter, other than that they seem to be the same BB.

And Believe me I tryed and tested most BB's trying to find the best bang for my dollar. And if I cant find Airsoft Elite/Metal Tech BB's to buy my Choice would be BBBastard all the way.
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Old August 29th, 2010, 14:50   #19
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Interesting. Not consistent with our testing but I am not one to deny another person's experience. If I may ask, what weight were using and what is your airsoft gun that you tested with?
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Old August 29th, 2010, 15:12   #20
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Well I've tried many BBs, Bastards are number one in my books, Madbulls are soft and as mentioned can suck horridly, metaltech is ok, anything else, don't bother with
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Old August 29th, 2010, 16:01   #21
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I haven't tried bbb in a while, judging from the comments the quality has improved? I'd love to get my hands on a bag to try them out..
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Old August 29th, 2010, 16:06   #22
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improved? they were always awesome, the only time I used madbulls is when i could get the .30s cheaper than bastard .28s
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Old August 29th, 2010, 16:12   #23
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Interesting. Not consistent with our testing but I am not one to deny another person's experience. If I may ask, what weight were using and what is your airsoft gun that you tested with?
0.25 Airsoft Elite/MetalTech White, and 0.25 BBBastard White.

Im useing a upgraded M4 with a S110 + 404mm 6.04 TB.

At my max range the AE/MT hit my target constancy where I found that the BBB's Flu off to right, left, up, down, all over the place, Then I swaped back to AE/MT and im back on taget, But this is at the end of my BB's travile. I also tryed a members AK with higher fps with similar results.

The only other BB's I had this all over the place affect at the end of the BB's travile was "Matrix" brand BB's.

Hope this make's sence, I have Truble explaining things online.

The BBB,s came from BB's Supply well over a year ago. He mite have records of exact date. Maybe BBB's quality has improved since then.

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Old August 29th, 2010, 19:55   #24
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That doesn't sound like bastard product to me at all.
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Old August 29th, 2010, 20:13   #25
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0.25 Airsoft Elite/MetalTech White, and 0.25 BBBastard White.

Im useing a upgraded M4 with a S110 + 404mm 6.04 TB.

At my max range the AE/MT hit my target constancy where I found that the BBB's Flu off to right, left, up, down, all over the place, Then I swaped back to AE/MT and im back on taget, But this is at the end of my BB's travile. I also tryed a members AK with higher fps with similar results.

The only other BB's I had this all over the place affect at the end of the BB's travile was "Matrix" brand BB's.

Hope this make's sence, I have Truble explaining things online.

The BBB,s came from BB's Supply well over a year ago. He mite have records of exact date. Maybe BBB's quality has improved since then.
Yea...

Quite the opposite..

You should have seen the amount of complaints I had against the AE/Metal Tech BB's at Claybank 2009

As soon as people were using Bastards there weren't any problems at all
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Old August 30th, 2010, 22:50   #26
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That doesn't sound like bastard product to me at all.
It surprised me after reading all the good reviews on BBB's but i cant deny that AE/MT BB's work better for me in my case.

I dont deny BBbastard are Great product's for there price point. And I would be useing them if they worked for me.

The only other thing I can think of is I was one of the unlucky bastard's that recived a pour batch.

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Old August 31st, 2010, 15:22   #27
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It surprised me after reading all the good reviews on BBB's but i cant deny that AE/MT BB's work better for me in my case.

I dont deny BBbastard are Great product's for there price point. And I would be useing them if they worked for me.

The only other thing I can think of is I was one of the unlucky bastard's that recived a pour batch.
I've found that if a customer has problems and contacts us, we can generally resolve the problem. Its usually a feedpath, hopup or barrel issue, not a BB problem. For an example, ask S.H.I.E.L.D. or MrEvolution about their latest experience with us, they can vouch for that. Every problem a customer has is solvable in my opinion, so long as we have their cooperation and communication.

I find that guns that are 'brand sensitive' usually have some kind of issue that the user has not identified. Its pretty simple - you have a 6mm+ barrel. The BB follows a path from the mag to the crown of the barrel. Anything in that path can assist of degrade the velocity, pitch, yaw or spin of the BB, influencing its behavior resulting in a stoppage or subpar performance. Those problems are always solvable. When customers report this, and it doesn't happen often, with our product and say that an alternate product works, its most often because that other product has a smaller diameter. The downside is that you're not getting optimum performance from your airsoft gun when you compromise with a lower diameter BB because you're getting more blowby around the BB through the barrel, and as a result, less air behind the BB during its acceleration through the barrel. This can also result in subpar turbulence when the BB exits the barrel, creating secondary problems such as fliers or ineffective hopup, resulting in subpar range. BBs exiting a barrel have an optimal exit that results in a temporary cushion of turbulence around the BB - thats the magic of the hopup. Poorly tuned or ineffective hopup impacts the quality and staying power of that turbulent shell. Once it collapses the BB continues on purely on kinetic energy to it natural flightpath termination be that at the target or as a result of gravity or an obstruction.

Blackthorne and I have been wracking our brains trying to come up with a way to communicate these issues and we think we've found a method - enter the Bastapedia Wiki. We're just revamping the website to include it and it will be a reference for our product experiences with customers with specific makes and models of AEGs and GBBRs. Slight adjustments and modifications result in the elimination of stoppages and optimized performance. We'll crowdsource this knowledge and add to it as we experiment (which Bastard Labs is always doing - we are incessant tinkerers when it comes to BBs). This should make it easier for customers to tune their airsoft guns to maximize the performance of our product without having to become lab techs.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 16:39   #28
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So you are telling me that BBbastard BB's have a smaller diameter then AE/MT of 5.98 .?

I really like to discuss this a little better to really find out why my experience Differs from Bastard Labs. So contact by PM or start a new thread, BB,s 'brand sensitive' Gun's, or a title appropriate for this discussion.

Thank for your efforts in this matter.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 16:56   #29
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Are you going to the night game in Penticton Z-69? I have some BBBs that are non-jamming in my rig. We could swap mags and do a bench test.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 19:37   #30
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Are you going to the night game in Penticton Z-69? I have some BBBs that are non-jamming in my rig. We could swap mags and do a bench test.
No I will not be attending the Penticton night game.

I never had a jamming useing BBB's or any of other brand's I used.

It's the constancy of the BB at the end of the BB's travile useing BBB's that's Not consistent with there testing. And im trying to find out why this has happend in my case.

I was thinking just now maybe it's quite possible the ten bag's got ruff treatment in shipping to me. How should ten bag's be packed when shipping.?

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