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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:06   #1
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Question regarding legallity of a certain airgun

Im new here and felt this was the most appropriate forum.

idk if its necessarily acceptable that i ask about air pistols that shoot metal BBs and technically are NOT airsoft.. (see below)

*********EDIT: I DO NOT INTEND TO USE PELLET GUNS FOR THE SPORT OF AIRSOFT*******

But anyway, Enough of that.. I was wondering (legally) about getting the Umarex SA177.. I already like the thing but legallity is the deciding factor. Its listed to fire at 380 FPS, and fires metal BBs (steel) its .177 caliber (Not 6mm, its roughly 4.5mm) anyway I just figured this forum would be somewhere i can ask educated people. Im not age verified because i dont plan on buying off the site.... FYI i just broke my crosman stinger p9 airsoft pistol. anywhere i can get a new spring for that?

I live in toronto, and im aware that outside use is probably prohibited by a bylaw but i just want to shoot paper targets inside. I play paintball more than airsoft but, this is a cleaner indoor option.

Thanks for the responses (in advance)

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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:10   #2
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I knew that title would work!

ANYWAY idk if its necessarily acceptable that i ask about air pistols that shoot metal BBs and technically are NOT airsoft.. (see below)

But anyway, Enough of that.. I was wondering (legally) about getting the Umarex SA177.. I already like the thing but legallity is the deciding factor. Its listed to fire at 380 FPS, and fires metal BBs (steel) its .177 caliber (Not 6mm, its roughly 4.5mm) anyway I just figured this forum would be somewhere i can ask educated people. Im not age verified because i dont plan on buying off the site.... FYI i just broke my crosman stinger p9 airsoft pistol. anywhere i can get a new spring for that?

I live in toronto, and im aware that outside use is probably prohibited by a bylaw but i just want to shoot paper targets inside. I play paintball more than airsoft but, this is a cleaner indoor option.

Thanks for the responses (in advance)
Guess what, you just broke a forum rule, NO you cannot use PELLET guns as AIRSOFT guns, 2 different things, and prepare to get flamed. And pro tip, DONT BUY "AIRSOFT" GUNS FROM WALMART, CANADIAN TIRE, OR ANYTHING CLEAR PLASTIC.


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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:11   #3
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Thanks for that. I never said it was an airsoft gun?
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:14   #4
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Thanks for that. I never said it was an airsoft gun?
i got the impression you were planning on buying a UMAREX pellet gun that shoots METAL BBs... Put 2 and 2 together. Your in the wrong place if your looking for pellet guns. Read the FAQs and rules.

Airsoft = Plastic BBs.

Pellet gun = Metal BBs.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:18   #5
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Okay. dont get butthurt. I was just asking. Any idea where to go then?



Also off topic but how do you get "out" in airsoft? j/w
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:22   #6
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How do you get "out" in airsoft? Like while playing a game? Well see theres things called BB's. And when you get shot. Your "out". Pretty educated thinking isn't it .
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:24   #7
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Ok dont cry.. but as i know it, bbs do not leave visual markings, so newbz and losers could claim they wernt hit. Just wondering.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:28   #8
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Ok dont cry.. but as i know it, bbs do not leave visual markings, so newbz and losers could claim they wernt hit. Just wondering.
You know being the new guy and talking shit doesnt get you far, how old are you? under 18? Tough shit, pack up and wait till you are, cause you clearly seem to have an attitude problem.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:28   #9
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Ok dont cry.. but as i know it, bbs do not leave visual markings, so newbz and losers could claim they wernt hit. Just wondering.
I'm not crying. I suggest if you plan on being around these forums much longer that you should lose the attitude. People don't appreciate it much.

Yes Airsoft is a sophisticated game than it's counter-part Paintball. We rely on an HONOUR system. Something kids that play Paintball might not know much about.

If someone didn't call their hit. You hit them again, and again, and again, until they do. And you aim for more painful parts of their body. It's actually quite fun.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:28   #10
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Lol.

Guess you've never been shot by a real airsoft gun.

Try again.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:29   #11
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Mods wanna lock this thread up?
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:29   #12
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Airgunforum.ca might be a better place if you're looking for more expert information however I am somewhat versed in .177 and 4.5mm airguns and pellet guns.

Anyways.... CT and Walmart are kind of crappy places to get *nice* pellet guns. Sure they sell the run of the mill cheap ass pellet guns (they're not bad for the price per se but don't expect the same performance of a Supra out of a Civic is basically what I'm saying) for whatever but if you want a nice one like Anschutz, Benelli, Beeman and the like you'll have to go to speciality stores for that kind of stuff.

So if you're looking for something to have fun with then the Daisy (Avanti or Powerline) is probably what you will find that fits your needs.

Airgundepot or Pyramidair are probably pretty good choices and they are allowed to cross the border but beware since most AIRSOFT CANNOT CROSS THE BORDER because they are not classed in the same category as airguns (.177 and such that shoot 495 FPS for non PAL holders). If you want to purchase in Canada however I believe Airgunsource is a pretty reputable retailer.

NOTE: That CERTAIN AIR RIFLES YOU WILL NEED A VALID PAL LICENSE. This is because they are considered firearms (the ones that shoot above 500 FPS). So most of the "Air Force" line will be out of your reach however Daisy Avanti and Powerline are perfect for that since they fall into the realm where general public can purchase.

EDIT: Also if people don't call their hits they'll find that they get invited to less and less games so call your hits (and if in doubt just call yourself out anyways). Basically be fair and honourable, if you are sure it didn't hit you then continue playing but if in doubt just call yourself out.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:33   #13
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Okay. Anyway all i had was a simple question and i got a sarcastic answer. and yes in EVERY game there is an honor system. and yes i have been shot and they do hurt i was merely asking to see if there was something more to it or something. I dont see why its a big deal. And L473ncy thanks for the info.
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Okay. Anyway all i had was a simple question and i got a sarcastic answer. and yes in EVERY game there is an honor system. and yes i have been shot and they do hurt i was merely asking to see if there was something more to it or something. I dont see why its a big deal.
Its a big deal because you came here with an attitude asking about something completely separate from Airsoft. If you really had to ask that question, especially "does it hurt" and then say "yeah i know it hurts, ive been shot before"... really? I mean fucking seriously? Its quite obvious your not 18, and if surprising you are, your mind and attitude most certainly doesnt reflect it.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 00:39   #15
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Okay. Anyway all i had was a simple question and i got a sarcastic answer. and yes in EVERY game there is an honor system. and yes i have been shot and they do hurt i was merely asking to see if there was something more to it or something. I dont see why its a big deal. And L473ncy thanks for the info.
The thing is we get this almost every day so sure there are a few people who may be pissed about it but then again they shouldn't be in the Newbie tank. I only really respond to people who I think just need a nudge in the right direction. Otherwise I just don't reply and leave the immature idiots who "wnat da b3st gunz wid hi ef-pee-ess" to the flamesquads.
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