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Old June 20th, 2010, 18:57   #1
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Totally new to GBBR.

Hi,

I'm totally new to GBBR world, so I just want to gather some tips before I get into it.

I'm going get a GBBR but I don't know which one is good. I know that KJW makes nice gas blowback systems, so I was thinking of getting a KJW M4.
But I want a realism. I mean, I'm looking for a hard kick GBBR.

So here is my questions;

1. does KJW M4 has a hark kick? if not, which brand would you recommand?

2. I realized that most of magazines are hold up to 30rd bb's, how do you reload? Do you guys just carry many mags? or do you reload the bb's with one mag in the field?

3. how much gas can I hold in the mag? like for normal GBB pistols, I count 3-
4 seconds and it last untill I shoot out all the bb's were in the mag.

4. which part effects the blow back system? is it same as pistol? or different?

5. how do you maintain a mag? same way to the pistol's?

6. the difference between gas mags and co2 mags?

As far as I remember, these are the thing that I want to get advised.

Thanks for your time.

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Old June 20th, 2010, 19:42   #2
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Best way to do some research (that I know of - simple for me) is to take the model of gun and YouTube it. Then you will find many videos of people explaining their experiences with it. Gives you a good idea and you don't have to read .

I checked some videos of the WE M4. Looks pretty badass.

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2. I realized that most of magazines are hold up to 30rd bb's, how do you reload? Do you guys just carry many mags? or do you reload the bb's with one mag in the field?
Dude.. I don't know how you play, but I like to play realistically as I did for my first game. Lots of fun. Yes of course you carry more than 1 mag. Honestly, this one mag hi-cap deal that people do just makes me view them as a 14 year old with no experience. No joke.

You reload by pressing the mag release, and insert a new magazine.

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Old June 20th, 2010, 20:33   #3
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Best way to do some research (that I know of - simple for me) is to take the model of gun and YouTube it. Then you will find many videos of people explaining their experiences with it. Gives you a good idea and you don't have to read .

I checked some videos of the WE M4. Looks pretty badass.



Dude.. I don't know how you play, but I like to play realistically as I did for my first game. Lots of fun. Yes of course you carry more than 1 mag. Honestly, this one mag hi-cap deal that people do just makes me view them as a 14 year old with no experience. No joke.

You reload by pressing the mag release, and insert a new magazine.
Thanks for the advise.

But...I'm not a 14 year old boy nor I attend the game with only one hi-cap..somepeople in Calgary maybe knows I'm pretty hardcore guy...
My point is...how do you figure out if the mag is fully filled up with a gas? do you count a second or what? I've watch a video on Youtube that one guy is keep shooting a bb's out of the gun with out refill the gas up. He is just shooting the bb out of the gun and reload and so on...
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Old June 20th, 2010, 20:37   #4
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Again, do some research via Google. There is bound to be a website. Just look at what id recommended. What kind of mags are you going to get for your GBBR? Once you know this then research to see how to properly load it with gas and how long it will last.

Only once you cannot find this information yourself, then come to the forums with what you have learned and what you still need to know. For most stuff, you don't need to do this cause you will mostly find what you need someone on the internet or on the forums already.

Also you talk about this video. You realize each mag has its own gas capacity therefore he can reload with a different mag and keep shooting right? Same as a pistol. So if he has 10 mags of course he can keep shooting cause theres gas in all of them.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 20:44   #5
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Old June 20th, 2010, 21:01   #6
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Old June 20th, 2010, 21:08   #7
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Gasguns.info is really a much better forum for the information you are looking for;

http://gasguns.info/forum/

That being said, I strongly recommend you look into the new FMU WE M4's coming down the pipes.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 22:37   #8
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or get a WA M4 and some upgrades for a more realistic blowback/recoil.... :P (if you can afford it... :S)
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Old June 20th, 2010, 22:43   #9
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or get a WA M4 and some upgrades for a more realistic blowback/recoil.... :P (if you can afford it... :S)
How is the Recoil on the WA more realistic than say the WE?

I have a WE and I think its about 75% of a Real M4. Just curious.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 23:18   #10
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How is the Recoil on the WA more realistic than say the WE?

I have a WE and I think its about 75% of a Real M4. Just curious.
75% of a 22lr one maybe. There's no way WE m4 has that much, just remember a 5.56 out of a real m4 is 884 meters per second with a weight of 4.1 gram which equates to a large momentum, the WE m4 shoots around 120m per second on a 0.2g projectile even with the blow-back calculated, its no where closed. I've fired a 9mm Colt SMG select fire (M4 SMG chamber in 9mm) and none of the recoil comes even close. unless you're comparing it to a blank fire.

FYI I've never fire WE m4 but SCAR, Daytonagun AK (kicks the hardest), KJW m4 kicks a lil less than WA series, WA m4 series None of those are even close to the real one. Daytonagun recoil is about lil less than AK shooting blanks. (5.45 blanks) according to a classic airsoft member who shot both.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 23:19   #11
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Recoil on the WE Scar is really low... IMO....
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Recoil on the WE Scar is really low... IMO....
We know already that recoil of WE is lower than WA, and WA is lower than DG, and DG is lower than firearms.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 23:52   #13
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i think that we can all agree that regardless of what brand of GBBr you have, any recoil = FUN.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 00:17   #15
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Just curious about the brand that I've never heard of...what's DG??

And you guys are saying KJW has weaker kick than those WE,WA, and DG??

For me, blowback and able to find a spare parts are the most important thing.
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