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Old May 25th, 2010, 11:23   #1
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Classifieds: READ THIS OR YOU'LL BE SORRY ● Petites annonces: VOUS REGRETTREZ NE PAS AVOIR LU CECI.

Maybe because we've gotten a lot of new verified users lately, or some of our older users are getting forgetful (and a few never bothered reading it the first time around)... but there's a lot of abuse lately so it seems I need to repost a reminder about the rules for the classifieds. Recent changes or additions/revisions/clarifications in red.

À cause d'un nombre croissant d'abus dans la rubrique des petites annonces, re-voici une liste des règles en vigueur. Changements récents et clarifications sont en rouge. (voir 2ième partie pour la version française)


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1) Prices must be listed in a sales thread;

2) If it's Sale/Trade then a price and/or specific item(s) you want in trade must be listed;

3) Do not replace prices with "SPF" or "SOLD" when an item is sold. Instead, put “SOLD” next to the price and add the word "BANANA" to your original post. Do not delete or edit out the content of sold listings. Sold items are moved to a searchable archive for potential buyers and sellers to see how much items were last sold for.

If your listing contains multiple items, mark items as "SOLD" (next to the price) and only add "BANANA" after ALL items in the thread have been sold: threads containing the word "BANANA" will get moved to the archive!

I will now be issuing warnings to people who edit out their threads!

4) One bump per week, i.e., wait until the 8th day to bump;

5) Do not bump with "BANANA", "SPF" or "SOLD": just edit it into one of your existing posts;

6) Creating a new post just to add information or pictures IS CONSIDERED A BUMP! If you have new information to add, and the time period has not yet expired since your last valid post, then just add this new information in to the last post or in to the original post!

Bumping early does result in an infraction, and repeated abuse can and does lead to a temporary ban (starting at 1 week for a first offense). Continued abuse after this can lead to loss of age verification and/or banning from the site;

7) Firearms - There will be no sales of real firearms on Airsoft Canada: this includes blank firing guns, plug fire guns and dewats. Use a site like Canadian Gun Nutz instead. Posting up wanted ads or sales ads for firearms will result in an infraction. Firearms parts and accessories that can be used with an airsoft gun are allowed;

8) Pre-Orders - only those with Retailer status will be able to offer them and they will be subject to addtional specific rules;

9) Fraud - Those that try to defraud our members risk having their AV status revoked, banning from the site and /or having their information turned over to the authorities. Refer to the “Fraud and Online Sales” Thread for details on how to protect yourself;

10) Retailing - the distribution/resale of new items is limited to Retailers only and is not allowed in the classifieds: please refer to our supporting retailer program for more information. This includes services, promoting businesses (advertising) and self-produced goods. Eligibility for Retailer Status is now subject to approval.

We understand that occasionally certain people may have a new item to sell, or collectors may have "like new" items they wish to sell off: these are okay. However the sale of items obtained or produced specifically for resale, volume sales, soliciting, etc, is considered retailing.

ALSO, post items in the correct areas! If you aren't AV'd you cannot access sections other than gear; this means you cannot buy or sell items other than gear. IT IS NOT OKAY TO POST NON-GEAR ITEMS IN THE GEAR SECTION.

Users outside of Canada may use the International Classifieds. The International Classifieds are NOT to be used as a way for non-AV'd Canadian members to circumvent the AV system.
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1) Un prix doit être indiqué dans le message de vente;

2) Si c'est un annonce À Vendre/À Échanger le prix et/ou les items désirés en échange doivent être listés.

3) Quand un article est vendu ne remplacez pas le prix par "SPF", "SOLD", ou "VENDU"; plutôt rajoutez "SOLD" (ou "VENDU") à côté du prix et insérez le mot "BANANA" dans le message original. N'effacez pas et ne modifiez pas le contenu de l'annonce lorsque celle-ci est vendu. Les items vendus sont archivés comme référence pour les autres vendeurs et acheteurs.

Si votre annonce contient plusieurs articles, marqué les comme "VENDU" (à coté du prix) et rajoutez "BANANA" seulement après avoir vendu TOUT les items dans votre annonce: les annonces contenant le mot "BANANA" sont automatiquement déplacées vers les archives!

Des avertissements seront désormais émis à ceux qui modifient le contenu de leurs annonces après la vente.

4) Un seul "BUMP" (poster une réplique afin de faire remonter le thread au haut de la page) par semaine, c-à-d attendez au 8ieme jour pour bumper;

5) Ne bumpez pas avec "BANANA", "SPF" ou "VENDU": éditez plutôt un de vos messages existants;

6) Poster un nouveau message pour rajouter des informations ou des photos EST CONSIDERÉ COMME UN BUMP! Si vous avez de nouvelles informations à rajouter et que la période depuis votre dernier message est moins d'une semaine, ajouter l'information à un de vos messages existants!

Les bumps excessifs résulteront en une infraction. Les abus excessifs résulteront en un bannissement temporaire (à partir d'une semaine pour une première offense). Les abus subséquents peuvent mener à la perte du statut Age Verified et/ou un bannissement permanent site;

7) Armes à feu - Il n'y aura aucune vente d'armes à feu sur Airsoft Canada: ceci inclus les fusils à blanc, les fusils de type "plug fire" et les armes à feu désactivées. Utilisez plutôt un site comme Canadian Gun Nutz pour ces ventes. Offrir ou demander ce type d'arme sur ASC résultera en une infraction. Les pièces et accessoires qui peuvent être utilisées sur un fusil airsoft sont permises;

8) Commandes différées ("Pre-Orders") - seulement les détaillants (statut "Retailer") pourront en offrir et celles-ci seront sujet à des règles spécifiques;

9) Fraude - Quiconque tentera de frauder nos membres risque de perdre leur statut Age Verified, un bannissement du site et/ou voir leurs informations livrées aux autorités. Consultez le thread "Fraud and Online Sales" pour plus d'informations sur comment vous protéger;

10) Vente en détail ("Retailing") - la distribution/revente d'articles neufs est limité aux détaillants (statut "Retailer") et n'est pas permise dans la rubrique des petites annonces: veuillez consulter notre programme de détaillants pour plus de renseignements. Cette limitation inclut les services, la promotion de commerces (annonces) et les produits artisanaux. L'éligibilité pour le statut de détaillant est maintenant sujet à l'approbation.

Nous comprenons qu'occasionnellement certains membres auront un article neuf à vendre, ou que les collectionneurs voudront vendre des articles "comme neuf": ces articles sont permis. Cependant, la vente d'items acquis ou produits spécifiquement dans le but d'être revendu, la vente en volume, la sollicitation, etc. sera considéré comme une vente en détail.

DE PLUS, assurez-vous de postez dans la bonne section! Les gens qui ne sont pas vérifiés n'ont pas accès aux sections autre que celle du Gear; ceci veux dire que vous ne pouvez pas acheter ou vendre du materiel autre que du gear. NE POSTEZ PAS DES ANNONCES POUR AUTRE CHOSE QUE DU GEAR DANS LA SECTION GEAR.

Les usagés à l'extérieur du Canada peuvent utilisé les annonces classés internationales. Les annonces classés internationales ne peuvent être utilisées par des membres canadiens non-vérifiés pour contourner le système de vérification d'age.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 12:00   #2
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Thank's for the reminder.

It was a long read but worth it to make sure the rules are followed for the sake of everyone.

I also agree +1000000 to not edit the original post and remove all data and replace with only banana. It results in a wasted archival.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 12:21   #3
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+1000 i'm new here but digging through the classifieds was a little rough becuase people were breaking the rules... how soon people forget
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Old May 25th, 2010, 19:17   #4
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Enfin, c'était vraiment gossant de voir des dizaines et des dizaines de threads écrits "SOLD".

Another thing you might want to add, I saw someone who had an old FS thread that never sold and just made a new one instead of bumping it, for the exact same item, so he had 2 exact same threads for the same item.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 21:12   #5
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Another thing you might want to add, I saw someone who had an old FS thread that never sold and just made a new one instead of bumping it, for the exact same item, so he had 2 exact same threads for the same item.
Please use the Report Post function when you see stuff like that: as I mentioned in another thread, the staff just can't read every thread daily, there's just way too many posts. We really rely on the users to point out problems when they see them.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 21:30   #6
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Yeah Drake for cleaning up the classifieds.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 01:08   #7
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I notice now I can't post replies in sale threads? Is that new or have I been real slow?
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Old May 26th, 2010, 01:18   #8
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I notice now I can't post replies in sale threads? Is that new or have I been real slow?
You've been real slow. LOL That happened since like over a year ago, maybe up to 2.
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Old May 28th, 2010, 22:26   #9
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Glad to see this reminder up again; but to be fair the b&s needs to be cleaned a little more often; a quick search of the electric guns sale section nets 64 "banana"'d threads, going back to april 30th for "last edited" dates.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 13:37   #10
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theres many sellers who've removed every description and replace with SOLD or replaced price with SOLD. I don't mind to tell who are they because it pisses me off when i try to verify a certain item market price.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 16:43   #11
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I saw a request for something on the buying part of the classifieds ...

Thanks for reminding, I'm getting sick of seeing the price replaced with sold and like Ayashifx said, people deleting description.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 04:31   #12
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Just checked the forum today and this finally caught my attention. I'll be more diligent from now on with the postings.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 18:19   #13
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FYI
Why can't people just read the rules and follow them...have a look people:

1) Prices must be listed in a sales thread;

2) If it's Sale/Trade then a price and/or specific item(s) you want in trade must be listed;

3) Do NOT replace prices with "SPF" or "SOLD" when an item is sold. Instead, put “SOLD” next to the price and add the word "BANANA" to your original post. Do not delete or edit out the content of sold listings. Sold items are moved to a searchable archive for potential buyers and sellers to see how much items were last sold for.

If your listing contains multiple items, mark items as "SOLD" (next to the price) and only add "BANANA" after ALL items in the thread have been sold: threads containing the word "BANANA" will get moved to the archive!

I will now be issuing warnings to people who edit out their threads!

4) One bump per week, i.e., wait until the 8th day to bump;

5) Do NOT bump with "BANANA", "SPF" or "SOLD": just edit it into one of your existing posts;

6) Creating a new post just to add information or pictures IS CONSIDERED A BUMP! If you have new information to add, and the time period has not yet expired since your last valid post, then just add this new information in to the last post or in to the original post!

Bumping early does result in an infraction, and repeated abuse can and does lead to a temporary ban (starting at 1 week for a first offense). Continued abuse after this can lead to loss of age verification and/or banning from the site;

7) Firearms - There will be no sales of real firearms on Airsoft Canada: this includes blank firing guns, plug fire guns and dewats. Use a site like Canadian Gun Nutz instead. Posting up wanted ads or sales ads for firearms will result in an infraction. Firearms parts and accessories that can be used with an airsoft gun are allowed;

8) Pre-Orders - only those with Retailer status will be able to offer them and they will be subject to addtional specific rules;

9) Fraud - Those that try to defraud our members risk having their AV status revoked, banning from the site and /or having their information turned over to the authorities. Refer to the “Fraud and Online Sales” Thread for details on how to protect yourself;

10) Retailing - the distribution/resale of new items is limited to Retailers only and is not allowed in the classifieds: please refer to our supporting retailer program for more information. This includes services, promoting businesses (advertising) and self-produced goods. Eligibility for Retailer Status is now subject to approval.

We understand that occasionally certain people may have a new item to sell, or collectors may have "like new" items they wish to sell off: these are okay. However the sale of items obtained or produced specifically for resale, volume sales, soliciting, etc, is considered retailing.

ALSO, post items in the correct areas! If you aren't AV'd you cannot access sections other than gear; this means you cannot buy or sell items other than gear. IT IS NOT OKAY TO POST NON-GEAR ITEMS IN THE GEAR SECTION.

Users outside of Canada may use the International Classifieds. The International Classifieds are NOT to be used as a way for non-AV'd Canadian members to circumvent the AV system.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 12:47   #14
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^--- ???
Are you just venting frustration on people not following the rules? or is there a particular point to you reposting the rules?
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Old September 24th, 2010, 20:37   #15
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Should I even bother reporting threads? I see folks selling guns then bumping the thread with sold, banana, SPF, or etc. I reported as much as I can but I'm not sure if I'm helping at all....
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