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Old May 17th, 2010, 18:49   #1
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Canadian Tire Silicon used in midcaps?

Can you use Canadian Tire silicon 'spray' to lubricate mid cap magazines? Specifically the Motor Master one and the 3 in 1 silicon spray in the yellow and black label. Thanks in advance!
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Old May 17th, 2010, 18:57   #2
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Amazon.com: UTG Airsoft Cleaning Silicone Spray, 50ml: Sports & Outdoors


Cheap effective and safe. Also free shipping from Amazon for this item.


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Old May 17th, 2010, 19:36   #3
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Canadian Tire Spray Silicone Oil contains petroleum distillates, which is likely to swell your hop up rubber.

That's why this stuff is advertised as "great for window gaskets", because it swells the rubber while lubricating it, making the rubber seal so great once this stuff is sprayed on. It's almost melting the rubber.

In airsoft guns where the hop up rubber is in a relatively tight tolerance, swelling the rubber wouldn't be a great idea.

I've destroyed classic airsoft with this stuff, whose plastics were very sensitive to this oil. Also damaged hop up rubbers with this spray oil.



If you decide to use this, do so at your own risk.


Generally, you don't need a spray, as a swab on your cleaning rod is enough to get a couple of drops of pure silicone oil through the system. Drip oil is much less difficult to acquire, as most sprays are a form of compressed gas and can only be shipped via surface mail. As such, there are also more Canadian retailers carrying the drip stuff than there are carrying the sprays.

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Also contains petroleum distillates, which is likely to swell your hop up rubber.

That's why this stuff is advertised as "great for window gaskets", because it swells the rubber while lubricating it, which is why it makes the rubber seal so great.

In airsoft guns where the hop up rubber is in a relatively tight tolerance, I don't think swelling the rubber would be any good.

I've destroyed classic airsoft with this stuff, whose plastics were very sensitive with its contents.



If you decide to use this, do so at your own risk. Some users may have had some luck with it. I have not.
It won't swell the hop-up rubber, it will eat away at it and make it useless. Petroleum distilates DESTROY rubber and plastics. I have a bottle of that 3 in 1 stuff right infront of me and it says it has distilates. In VERY small amounts, it likely won't do much, but I wouldn't lubricate anything apart form metal parts with it.
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Would an actual gun lube like ezeox work?

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would gun lube work?
You mean real steel gun lube?

NO, do not use that. It has a high petroleum content.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 19:58   #7
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Alright. So if i do get this Canadian Tire Silicon, put some on a swab and lube my midcaps, make sure their is no excess, I should be alright? If i run bbs through it for awhile, just loading them and unloading them, until they come out clean, free of any oil?
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Alright. So if i do get this Canadian Tire Silicon, put some on a swab and lube my midcaps, make sure their is no excess, I should be alright? If i run bbs through it for awhile, just loading them and unloading them, until they come out clean, free of any oil?
I'd avoid it all together. I use a drop or two of Airsoft Innovations 1.5wt silicon oil.

http://www.airsoft-innovations.com/GBBoil.html


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Old May 17th, 2010, 21:04   #9
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Okay. No point going to crappy tire now! Il order some of that AI lightweight silicon. I don't want to risk anything!
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Okay. No point going to crappy tire now! Il order some of that AI lightweight silicon. I don't want to risk anything!
really. you can use any 100% silly oil from your local hobbie shop. 10wt, 20wt, 25wt etc... would all be fine. not that I'm not telling you to support ASC Mart or Airsoft Innovations...
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really. you can use any 100% silly oil from your local hobbie shop. 10wt, 20wt, 25wt etc... would all be fine. not that I'm not telling you to support ASC Mart or Airsoft Innovations...
Their is no such thing as a hobby shop up here :P. All of them closed...
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Their is no such thing as a hobby shop up here :P. All of them closed...
would help if you filled in your profile to show where you are located...
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Canadian Tire Spray Silicone Oil contains petroleum distillates, which is likely to swell your hop up rubber.

That's why this stuff is advertised as "great for window gaskets", because it swells the rubber while lubricating it, making the rubber seal so great once this stuff is sprayed on. It's almost melting the rubber.

In airsoft guns where the hop up rubber is in a relatively tight tolerance, swelling the rubber wouldn't be a great idea.

I've destroyed classic airsoft with this stuff, whose plastics were very sensitive to this oil. Also damaged hop up rubbers with this spray oil.



If you decide to use this, do so at your own risk.


Generally, you don't need a spray, as a swab on your cleaning rod is enough to get a couple of drops of pure silicone oil through the system. Drip oil is much less easier to acquire, as most sprays are compressed and can only be shipped via surface mail. As such, there are also more Canadian retailers carrying the drip stuff than there are carrying the sprays.
I guess I should have elaborated. Thank gosh Illusion is around to point out the fact that sprays (while convenient) are not actually required.


Also just so you know another option is to buy normal light weight oil (such as the great AI stuff) and put it in a manual pump spray bottle (avaliable at craft stores).
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Alright. So if i do get this Canadian Tire Silicon, put some on a swab and lube my midcaps, make sure their is no excess, I should be alright? If i run bbs through it for awhile, just loading them and unloading them, until they come out clean, free of any oil?
If you're putting this in to your magazine, what goes in to your magazine? The BB's.

And where do the BB's pass through as they're fed through the gun? Right, the hop up rubber.

It's already been mentioned that you DON'T want this oil on your hop up rubber.

If dog poo transferred to your shoe, would it be safe to lick the bottom of your shoe since you're not licking directly from the original pile? LOL.
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