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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:27   #1
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Adjust sights or hop up or both?

Hey guys was testing my gun and it shoots about an inch or two below where I'm aiming. I can only get about 20 feet back for shooting here. Should I adjust the hop up or the sights to correct this?
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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:28   #2
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You can't effectively sight in your gun at 20ft man, gotta get to somewhere with a further distance.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:30   #3
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Hopup doesn't even take effect until about 40 feet.

The trick to quickly sighting in a gun. Set the hop so that the BB travels a straight path, then over hop a LITTLE. so that it curves up and then comes back down. It's a fine line.

Then adjust your sights to where the BB is shooting.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:30   #4
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Get out to a game and test it there. You should be adjusting your hop up for the most level path over its entire range. Not at a given distance.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:59   #5
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Hopup doesn't even take effect until about 40 feet.

The trick to quickly sighting in a gun. Set the hop so that the BB travels a straight path, then over hop a LITTLE. so that it curves up and then comes back down. It's a fine line.

Then adjust your sights to where the BB is shooting.
I underhop from the straightest line possible, makes sure every BB falls correctly and I can compensate for elevation if needed. Nothing worse than to try aiming with a slight overhop because air conditions got denser and having to aim lower. Go for straightest and farthest, then nick it down a notch for best shooting in all conditions.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 23:04   #6
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My scar overhops so it'll rise about 1-2 feet at maybe 20 feet. I need to change the bucking so.. anyways.. I was missing a dude at that distance.. and I was positive I got him out, but I guess all my bb's just rolled over his head and hit the tree over him.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 23:26   #7
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+2 feet at 20 feet?? Holy crap dude your gun must range like 80 feet and then drop. Overhop much?
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Old May 6th, 2010, 23:29   #8
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I underhop from the straightest line possible, makes sure every BB falls correctly and I can compensate for elevation if needed. Nothing worse than to try aiming with a slight overhop because air conditions got denser and having to aim lower. Go for straightest and farthest, then nick it down a notch for best shooting in all conditions.
Intresting, I think I will do that, I have mine over hoped like alot do, but i'll give that a try
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Old May 7th, 2010, 00:23   #9
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+2 feet at 20 feet?? Holy crap dude your gun must range like 80 feet and then drop. Overhop much?
That is the minimum hop :P. I guess dboys scar-l's are famous for this.. Maybe I was also exaggerating.. I'm trying to imagine my gun shooting right now, and that scene.. The kid I was shooting at was probably like 4' or so.. and I was aiming at his upper chest... so maybe 3', and the bb's were like hitting a few inches above his head, maybe 3-4... and I'm not very good at estimating distances either, but I think he was like 2 car lengths away, but down a pretty steep hill, so that might have changed something... But I think these new numbers may be a little more accurate. I recently cleaned out my gun (everything was basically untouched from the time I bought it except some metal ball bearing bushings)

I was trying to compensate by shooting lower, but he had a huge fat tree and I had the hill line, so I had to pop up shoot maybe 5 rounds and drop, and when you try to shoot lower over a hill, you leave yourself more exposed. So maybe that's why I didn't hit him. Oh and since he was with his dad and his sister... all behind that huge tree, I felt that I should just fall back after a few close calls. Then I ended up rushing center with 4 guys shooting at me yelling that my multicam would save me.. I ended up getting like half way into their side, maybe 30-40 yards and got behind a tree, but the tree I chose was only like a foot thick, and my leg was sticking out, and they had me in a crossfire.. but anyways..
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Old May 7th, 2010, 00:38   #10
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Thanks guys, I wish i could get back 30 to 50 feet, but I live downtown so my options are limited. I just wanted to get my iron sights bang on so I could fix my 552 reticule on my front sight. I guess I'll have to wait until I'm out at the field.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 08:56   #11
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Thanks guys, I wish i could get back 30 to 50 feet, but I live downtown so my options are limited. I just wanted to get my iron sights bang on so I could fix my 552 reticule on my front sight. I guess I'll have to wait until I'm out at the field.
You really won't be able to set your hop up (or see any effect) unless you can shoot past 100ft. Need to see the loft effect fully in order to adjust it. Get yourself a laser bore sight ($35 at Le Baron, likely gun stores would have the same) and zero your scope with that while at home (although 20ft is rather short, I do it at 30ft in my basement), then get to the field, set your hop up and then see if your sights are on or off, and adjust as needed. I rarely need to tweak my scope/sights by this method.

BTW, you should be checking and resetting your hop up before every game since temperature and air conditions will rarely be identical one day to the next. Cooler days will cause you to overhop a bit more, warmer will underhop. Add in windier conditions, over hop........... you get the picture.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 11:38   #12
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You really won't be able to set your hop up (or see any effect) unless you can shoot past 100ft. Need to see the loft effect fully in order to adjust it. Get yourself a laser bore sight ($35 at Le Baron, likely gun stores would have the same) and zero your scope with that while at home (although 20ft is rather short, I do it at 30ft in my basement), then get to the field, set your hop up and then see if your sights are on or off, and adjust as needed. I rarely need to tweak my scope/sights by this method.

BTW, you should be checking and resetting your hop up before every game since temperature and air conditions will rarely be identical one day to the next. Cooler days will cause you to overhop a bit more, warmer will underhop. Add in windier conditions, over hop........... you get the picture.
Sounds like good advice, thanks. I saw a bushnel lase bore sight, looks like a fast way to do it. My groupings are awesome right out of the box I fired on full auto for about 3/4 of a second and it blew out a dime sized hole in a shipping box, all the BB's in the same spot! I could be shooting fairly hard, need to get a chrono for myself. From 20ft it goes right through two shipping boxes and dents the wall behind (as I found out when I moved the boxes away, lol.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 13:49   #13
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Percuvius, come out to panther and play with us.

Most of your question can be answered with experience on the field.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 13:57   #14
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Percuvius, come out to panther and play with us.

Most of your question can be answered with experience on the field.
I'm planning on getting out there

I'm just waiting on my boots and hydration carrier that are en route from California right now and a barrel condom that I ordered from ebay. As soon as I get them in I can and will get out to a game!
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Old May 7th, 2010, 14:00   #15
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Good to hear, will see you there.
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