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Old April 19th, 2010, 03:59   #16
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Beside, I'm not planning on using high quality bbs.
I would recommend against that. Unless you want to be fixing your gun and replacing your hopup and/or barrel a lot.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 04:27   #17
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Carrying the bitch is half the fun to be honest, the times I've had a C6 or C9 and I see the other guys with the C7s...... it's a good feeling :P

That was back on Sq though, I don't think I've carried a bitch since then
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Old April 19th, 2010, 04:54   #18
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Have gun's that's not common, like m4/m16s.... And I hate AKs...
Aren't M4's/Armalite style guns pretty much the most common airsoft gun style?
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Old April 19th, 2010, 08:52   #19
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He meant he doesn't like common guns like armalites, as in such as. Not like as in shows affection towards.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:53   #20
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SAW Gunner tactics (from video games) appears to be short bursts of fire to keep enemies down so the squad can advance safely. A DMR or sniper can do this as well just by giving slow accurate fire to let the enemy know that there's accurate fire coming their way. Either way the goal is to keep them down so you can rush in and eliminate the enemy team if they're holed up somewhere or if they're advancing on a hill/bunker.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:02   #21
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Beside, I'm not planning on using high quality bbs.
Bad idea for many, many reasons, some of them already pointed out. But one that wasn't - for the same price as a pack of crappy BBs, you can actually get high quality BB Bastards BBs... So why you would want to use shit BBs to potentially damage your gun is beyond me.

And look at it this way - if you want to get into the support gunner role, expending BBs is part of the job. Investing in a SAW and not wanting to spend money of BBs like investing in a Lamborghini but not wanting the fuel costs associated with it.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:25   #22
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I would recommend against that. Unless you want to be fixing your gun and replacing your hopup and/or barrel a lot.
Really? Even though it shoots like 325 fps? With a stock barrel, the damage will still affect it? I believe the hop up will give up pretty quickly, but it seems like a cheap replacement.

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for the same price as a pack of crappy BBs, you can actually get high quality BB Bastards BBs... So why you would want to use shit BBs to potentially damage your gun is beyond me.
Can't find any local dealer who sells large amount of good quality bbs. Once I'm using is metal tech, and it's 20 bucks for 3000... But with 8 bucks, I can get 2500 none polish bbs, and 10 bucks for 5000 bio bbs... Cure, it's just a bit more for higher quality, but shipping is going to kill me.

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like investing in a Lamborghini but not wanting the fuel costs associated with it.
If you can relate a saw to a Lamborghini then I really REALLY want one! Haha. And isn't a part oh owning an expensive car is to show off most of the time?

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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:30   #23
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Since he is relating a SAW to a Lambo, you NEED to get high quality BBs.

Just my opinion, go out to an event and empty out the BB Bastard of their BBs. Horde the BBs and stash up! That way, you don't need to pay for shipping.
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What my question is, does the element of surprise work on a typical airsoft match?
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:31   #24
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:36   #25
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Really? Even though it shoots like 325 fps? With a stock barrel, the damage will still affect it? I believe the hop up will give up pretty quickly, but it seems like a cheap replacement.



Can't find any local dealer who sells large amount of good quality bbs. Once I'm using is metal tech, and it's 20 bucks for 3000... But with 8 bucks, I can get 2500 none polish bbs, and 10 bucks for 5000 bio bbs... Cure, it's just a bit more for higher quality, but shipping is going to kill me.



If you can relate a saw to a Lamborghini then I really REALLY want one! Haha. And isn't a part oh owning an expensive car is to show off most of the time?
And just like 90% of high end cars these days, they won't start without premium fuel....

Apply that analogy to airsoft for BBs. As you mentioned some hop ups etc are cheap to replace, but why not just not have to replace them at all by spending the few extra dollars and getting bastards?
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:39   #26
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Can't find any local dealer who sells large amount of good quality bbs. Once I'm using is metal tech, and it's 20 bucks for 3000... But with 8 bucks, I can get 2500 none polish bbs, and 10 bucks for 5000 bio bbs... Cure, it's just a bit more for higher quality, but shipping is going to kill me.
Out west, Metal Tech are the prominent brand of BBs. They're everywhere. And they're top quality BBs. I used them and would recommend them to anyone.

However, you could just ORDER BB Bastards. They're top quality BBs (many would argue the best available in Canada) and cost $10 for a bag of 2000.

And the velocity of your gun has no bearing. Cheap BBs will damage your hopup and leave residue inside your barrel, even possibly damaging the inner barrel. Also cheap, unpolished BBs don't have consistent sizing. That means they affect your accuracy, as they don't all leave the barrel at the same velocity and with the same amount of hop, They can potentially jam your barrel too. Jams can actually lead to internal mechbox damage - anything from a damaged nozzle to blowing out pistons and / or gears because of overpressure in the barrel preventing the piston from being able to return to battery. It's not a pretty thing.

When you take all into consideration, the small amount you initially save by using cheapo BBs can very quickly surpassed several times over in repairs to your gun. And this goes for ANY gun, not just a SAW.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 13:01   #27
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SAW gunners
used as support for squad/team to move forward
used to defend objectives
usually on the ass end of a patrol
carries a fuck tonne of ammo
carries a damn heavy gun for long periods of time
needs to be able to sprint and keep up with his squad/team
Squad Automatic Weapon is a support weapon, it can be used on the assault alone(i've seen it done) but in a squad/team role it is purely support you are tasked with constant fire at the enemy to suppress them. not much more.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 13:16   #28
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I LOVE CARRYING "THE BITCH"!

Believe me you can have ALOT of fun with an LMG. I wouldn't suggest it for your first gun, but definetly your second.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 13:33   #29
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I wouldn't suggest it for your first gun, but definetly your second.
Well, it's not my first gun, but it is my first serious gun. Other were like JG sig, ICS m4(which I totally toss away like $300 worth of screwing up on an upgrade project), and a couple of pistol.

I was thinking of playing sniping, but considering the field we play on, I get about 20-50 feet of clear view then bushes. Also after reading their play style, that change my mind completely.

I've been thinking, what's the different between a LMG and a upgraded(towards ROF) m15/g36 with a drum mag?... Other than the weight of course...

Thanks all for your input!
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Old April 19th, 2010, 13:38   #30
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what's the different between a LMG and a upgraded(towards ROF) m15/g36 with a drum mag?... Other than the weight of course...

Nothing other than appearance. And just in case you didn't know, LMGs don't have a particularly high rate of fire.
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