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Old September 15th, 2012, 16:20   #16
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Originally Posted by Tymothee View Post
I know GI and evike both do free shipping over a certain threshold, so buying in bulk (gun, battery, charger, thrown in an accessory or two) and I might get it a little clearer, but I do know you can get pretty harsh charges on duty and etc.

The one thing that gets to me is the price in america versus here. I frequent torontoairsoft and the newly opened "select paintball/airsoft" up in vaughn, and even considering all the charges of shipping the prices seem so steep it hurts. They do sell a gun I want with intense passion from there, though,
and it is this one:

My worry is that I'm getting ripped off at that price for a G&P :/ am I wrong there?

I personal do not recommend G&P. you're buying the gun for the externals, not the internals if you go for a G&P. and that gun isn't even that great looking. for a lot less you can get the King arms for cheaper, and with great internals. plus, you have room to customize it. buy and RIS, crane stock, magpul pistol grip ect. M4s are just endlessly upgradable. and do not buy from american retailers.

Without paperwork or 366 FPS or higher, it'll get seized
with paperwork and 366 or higher, it can still take awhile to get through
brokage fees
all in all you're paying a lot more then the original pricetag. I've made a couple threads on this. everyone says the same thing.
and please don't provide people with links to guns, I'm pretty sure thats against ASC rules.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 17:47   #17
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G&P is often touted as being one of the best manufacturers in airsoft, that's a good price for a G&P M4 in Canada.

G&P's reputation is mainly for having nice externals and trades. The trades on that gun aren't authentic to the CF C8's btw. Their internals however are are hit and miss, for instance G&P gears have a bad rep for breaking easily. Their mechbox shells though are highly reinforced (some may say in redundant areas) and their motors are popular.

On the subject of buying guns there are two main types of buyers.

Buyer #1: I don't know and don't care to learn about "airsoft mechanics". I just want a gun that shoots well and will be reliable.
- Tends to be the newer player but also describes many veterans too.
- Needs reliable internals with externals that will suit their ascetic desires as well as facilitate their desires for attachments such as optics and flashlights.

Buyer #2: I'm going to buy this thing and tweak it just the way I like it.
- Tends strongly to be a veteran player along with the occasional new player.
- Looking at externals and is less focused on internals because externals are more expensive.
- This buyer is also prone to a scratch build.

I generally wouldn't recommend a G&P to a type 1 buyer because the gears have a high chance to need replacing soon after purchase. Also I wouldn't recommend G&P to a new player because you have only have one gun and if it goes down you're screwed till you can fix it. Gears, generally speaking being one of the most involved things to replace. As long as you're aware of the issues and ok with them, there's no reason for you not to buy the thing. It doesn't make it a bad purchase just cause some guy said so on the internet.

Basically do your homework, the more you look into different guns, through reviews and the like, the better chance you'll have to find the one "thats best for you". As long as you chose a reputable company and a gun that doesn't have all terrible reviews you won't make a "bad" choice. Just about every company out there makes an M4 and there are tones of other guns that use stanag mags, FN 2000, L85, Sig 556, Type 97, Tavor 21, XCR, 416, masada, even the G36 can be made to use them. In the end I hope I've left you with more questions than answers as the intention is to help YOU find the gun that is best for you as opposed to telling you which gun I think is best for you.

You may be interested in reading this thread.

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Old September 15th, 2012, 18:01   #18
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Originally Posted by JerryMcGoulBerry View Post
King arms M4. and most ASC members hate these kinda questions. I tolerate them, but put some though and research next time.
yea. The thing is I did do a fair bit of research on a bunch of guns, and up until now I didn't consider Canadian stores since the prices, they seem so harsh.

The major thing was I figured ask people who know what their doing and not trying to sell me something, i.e. people working at the stores. Plus there are little to no reviews on most of the sights I checked out. I appreciate the suggestion! I will look into it, although I am dabbling into the idea of using an AK as well
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