TM VSR & VSR clone owner operators your input please

ThunderCactus · July 26th, 2010, 13:05

systema hop rubber suck, buy the firefly
603 prom barrel is infinitely better than the systems POS barrels
Don't ever modify anything by hand on a sniper rifle, this is supposed to be an incredibly accurate platform, not a machinegun

Kos-Mos · July 26th, 2010, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

systema hop rubber suck, buy the firefly
603 prom barrel is infinitely better than the systems POS barrels
Don't ever modify anything by hand on a sniper rifle, this is supposed to be an incredibly accurate platform, not a machinegun

+1

If you slipped for some reason, the gun might fire horribly just for that reason. 1 shot 1 kill. That is why we pay that much for parts with such a high tolerence.

brently0725 · July 26th, 2010, 15:08

^^^^^^^ I totally agree^^^^^^^^

Messing with your barrell with a dremel is not a good idea. It can leave even the smallest burrs and cut up your new hop up and completely change your hop up ajustment!!

ScooterVauto · July 26th, 2010, 21:08

ya i was standing there with glasses on and tool running and though... HMMMMM $50 to a local machinst or gundoctor would be waayy better the a $50 length is stainless steel tube that looks like an airsoft barrel.
DAMMIT i bought a systema barrel and hopup from Airsoftparts..
why the hell are systemA rifles so GODAM expensive if the Barrels and rubbers are shyte. hahahah NUTZ....
anyone want a new..... Never mind, Im going to grab my dremel hahah see you soon hahahah

Amos · July 26th, 2010, 21:32

Systema use to be top of the line.. but that was close to 2 years ago, they've since reduced their QC and are riding on past success rather than quality products

ThunderCactus · July 26th, 2010, 22:26

And have you SEEN the amount of upgrades for the PTW? If it's so good, why are there so many mods and upgrades??

ScooterVauto · August 4th, 2010, 22:56

Hi everyone, Build 99% complete with the exception of the Laylax Cylinder Head Pro
(waiting for stock at uncompany)

the list
TM VSR Pro ( I am sure i read that VSR means Very Special Rifle)
Externally all stock with aTm Rail & a Tasco "World Class" 3x9 - 40mm Scope
Laylax Perfect Sniper System 10 (PSS10)
Spring Guide, 150 Spring, Zero trigger with Orange Neo Piston, & Hopup assembly & Barrel Spacers (1 set).

Stock TM VSR rubber, SystemA 6.04 455mm AK aeg Barrel, TM threaded adapter Capped with a Madbul Compressor.

You can see the Chrono testing Here.
YouTube- ‪VSR Chrono and Cans 2‬&lrm;

I'll be gaming it this weekend, I'll let you know the Range and accuracy.
Ciao
SV

ThunderCactus · August 5th, 2010, 00:11

awwwww not only did you slap an AEG barrel on it, but you slapped a crap aeg barrel on it lol

Use the old hop system and put a laylax 6.03 on it! They're the best vsr barrels!

ScooterVauto · August 5th, 2010, 00:33

ok Y are they crap..
its a fun word, this is crap that is crap..
but why?
FYI saying its the quality control is a cop out..
I would ask, please show me something that proves it.

I not being pissy, i see that satement but never a proper reason.
With the Promethius barrel i had to run almost full hopup to hit 75 feet clean.
With the systemA i can hit 75 with less then 25% hopup.
to that end the system barrel carries the bb better.
they both shoot straight, FYI i will likely put my Promethius on my 733.

But a have the ability to change and when i head out this weekend, I will be doing range testing.. if the system blows at range, i'll drop in the pro.
hahah testing vs talking hahaha

ps i did try and find aa Laylax that would fit the stock assembly but the universe was sold out..
so i went the layalx hardware with the stock tm rubber and it seems quite solid & straight

ThunderCactus · August 5th, 2010, 11:27

Prometheus barrels are better, I've run systema and prometheus in my AEG's, prometheus always gets better range and accuracy.
And the laylax barrel in my VSR outperformed a PDI 6.01
And if your having hop issues with the prometheus barrel it's either because your using really bad ammo or you installed the hop rubber improperly.
And the systema barrels are brass, the prometheus stainless steel barrels are much better for sniping as they hold they're shape better

ScooterVauto · August 5th, 2010, 20:23

ahh there we go thank you Sir.
I agree the fact the pro barrel is steel will lead to less flex as the BB goes through it.
when the hop up (Stock TM VSR) was set so high, I has assumed i put it in incorrectly, so I stripped the parts, made sure they were all shiney and pretty, re installed everthing and same same. My Pro May be damaged (bought used - was installed but never used hahah Maybe i know why now

)

I'll have to get it looked at buy a pro gun doctor (bent barrel for instance hahah)
ammo
.20 Bio bastards, .25 Bastard Black DP, .28 Bastard White DP & .3 Bioval
tested with all but again i do not have the ability for range testing.
I talked to the Boss and I will be taking it to the shop tomorrow and will range in the warehouse after everyone goes home at 4 pm

Thanks TC

ThunderCactus · August 5th, 2010, 22:06

Hopefully you have a big shop! Ours is about 200ft from my area to the front overhead door, and I was hitting the building across the parking lot (~250ft) according to google maps anyway

ScooterVauto · August 5th, 2010, 22:35

SIK RU FN KDDING? (sorry i smoke and when i yell vowels dissappear hahahah)
I never expect much more then 150 ft
I actually measured it Tuesday.
there is a t intersection at the shop.
across the t 185' wall to wall
from the top down Guesstimate 300 and change (appeantly from the entry on the royal Zenith to the end of the Blava is 200 feet.
there is still space on both ends

ThunderCactus · August 6th, 2010, 00:20

Alright we measured it out, it's about 210ft, give or take 10ft, from where I was shooting to the building, but that's the absolute max range of my sniper rifle, I don't think I could hit someone in less than 5 shots at that range lol

ScooterVauto · August 6th, 2010, 00:29

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July 26th, 2010, 15:08	#18
brently0725 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mission, BC	^^^^^^^ I totally agree^^^^^^^^ Messing with your barrell with a dremel is not a good idea. It can leave even the smallest burrs and cut up your new hop up and completely change your hop up ajustment!! __________________ -TM AK Beta Spetz -TM MP5 SD5 -TSD VSR10 -Ares G39C -A&K Tan Magpul Masad -We Tech M9 Tac Masterling -1Tornado Impacts V2/3 Gun Doc and BA experience

July 26th, 2010, 21:08	#19
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	ya i was standing there with glasses on and tool running and though... HMMMMM $50 to a local machinst or gundoctor would be waayy better the a $50 length is stainless steel tube that looks like an airsoft barrel. DAMMIT i bought a systema barrel and hopup from Airsoftparts.. why the hell are systemA rifles so GODAM expensive if the Barrels and rubbers are shyte. hahahah NUTZ.... anyone want a new..... Never mind, Im going to grab my dremel hahah see you soon hahahah __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret.

July 26th, 2010, 21:32	#20
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokushima, Japan	Systema use to be top of the line.. but that was close to 2 years ago, they've since reduced their QC and are riding on past success rather than quality products __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

July 26th, 2010, 13:05	#16
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	systema hop rubber suck, buy the firefly 603 prom barrel is infinitely better than the systems POS barrels Don't ever modify anything by hand on a sniper rifle, this is supposed to be an incredibly accurate platform, not a machinegun

July 26th, 2010, 22:26	#21
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	And have you SEEN the amount of upgrades for the PTW? If it's so good, why are there so many mods and upgrades??

August 4th, 2010, 22:56	#22
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	Its all done well 99% Hi everyone, Build 99% complete with the exception of the Laylax Cylinder Head Pro (waiting for stock at uncompany) the list TM VSR Pro ( I am sure i read that VSR means Very Special Rifle) Externally all stock with aTm Rail & a Tasco "World Class" 3x9 - 40mm Scope Laylax Perfect Sniper System 10 (PSS10) Spring Guide, 150 Spring, Zero trigger with Orange Neo Piston, & Hopup assembly & Barrel Spacers (1 set). Stock TM VSR rubber, SystemA 6.04 455mm AK aeg Barrel, TM threaded adapter Capped with a Madbul Compressor. You can see the Chrono testing Here. YouTube- ‪VSR Chrono and Cans 2‬&lrm; I'll be gaming it this weekend, I'll let you know the Range and accuracy. Ciao SV __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret.

August 5th, 2010, 00:11	#23
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	awwwww not only did you slap an AEG barrel on it, but you slapped a crap aeg barrel on it lol Use the old hop system and put a laylax 6.03 on it! They're the best vsr barrels!

August 5th, 2010, 00:33	#24
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	ok Y are they crap.. its a fun word, this is crap that is crap.. but why? FYI saying its the quality control is a cop out.. I would ask, please show me something that proves it. I not being pissy, i see that satement but never a proper reason. With the Promethius barrel i had to run almost full hopup to hit 75 feet clean. With the systemA i can hit 75 with less then 25% hopup. to that end the system barrel carries the bb better. they both shoot straight, FYI i will likely put my Promethius on my 733. But a have the ability to change and when i head out this weekend, I will be doing range testing.. if the system blows at range, i'll drop in the pro. hahah testing vs talking hahaha ps i did try and find aa Laylax that would fit the stock assembly but the universe was sold out.. so i went the layalx hardware with the stock tm rubber and it seems quite solid & straight __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret. Last edited by ScooterVauto; August 5th, 2010 at 00:35..

August 5th, 2010, 11:27	#25
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Prometheus barrels are better, I've run systema and prometheus in my AEG's, prometheus always gets better range and accuracy. And the laylax barrel in my VSR outperformed a PDI 6.01 And if your having hop issues with the prometheus barrel it's either because your using really bad ammo or you installed the hop rubber improperly. And the systema barrels are brass, the prometheus stainless steel barrels are much better for sniping as they hold they're shape better

August 5th, 2010, 20:23	#26
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	ahh there we go thank you Sir. I agree the fact the pro barrel is steel will lead to less flex as the BB goes through it. when the hop up (Stock TM VSR) was set so high, I has assumed i put it in incorrectly, so I stripped the parts, made sure they were all shiney and pretty, re installed everthing and same same. My Pro May be damaged (bought used - was installed but never used hahah Maybe i know why now ) I'll have to get it looked at buy a pro gun doctor (bent barrel for instance hahah) ammo .20 Bio bastards, .25 Bastard Black DP, .28 Bastard White DP & .3 Bioval tested with all but again i do not have the ability for range testing. I talked to the Boss and I will be taking it to the shop tomorrow and will range in the warehouse after everyone goes home at 4 pm Thanks TC __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret.

August 5th, 2010, 22:06	#27
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Hopefully you have a big shop! Ours is about 200ft from my area to the front overhead door, and I was hitting the building across the parking lot (~250ft) according to google maps anyway

August 5th, 2010, 22:35	#28
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	SIK RU FN KDDING? (sorry i smoke and when i yell vowels dissappear hahahah) I never expect much more then 150 ft I actually measured it Tuesday. there is a t intersection at the shop. across the t 185' wall to wall from the top down Guesstimate 300 and change (appeantly from the entry on the royal Zenith to the end of the Blava is 200 feet. there is still space on both ends __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret.

August 6th, 2010, 00:20	#29
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Alright we measured it out, it's about 210ft, give or take 10ft, from where I was shooting to the building, but that's the absolute max range of my sniper rifle, I don't think I could hit someone in less than 5 shots at that range lol

August 6th, 2010, 00:29	#30
ScooterVauto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Edmonton	NIce __________________ A single Light is all one needs to find their way through the darkness, But a single BB is all you need to bring it on! ========== Im not worried about the Bullet that has my Name on it, Im worried about the bullet that says "to whom it may concern" Lt. Alexander Washington -(Red Tails 1944) Ret.

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