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Old October 15th, 2013, 16:41   #61
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whoever is spreading this bullshit about r-hop not being adjustable needs to stfu.

I've had to set like 10 people straight over the last couple months.

Rhop is 100% fully adjustable as if stock hop.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 16:42   #62
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Now I kinda wanna do this to my new TM MP5k...
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Old October 15th, 2013, 16:56   #63
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whoever is spreading this bullshit about r-hop not being adjustable needs to stfu.

I've had to set like 10 people straight over the last couple months.

Rhop is 100% fully adjustable as if stock hop.
whaaaaaaat people seriously thought it was a fixed hop? lol
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Old October 15th, 2013, 17:00   #64
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whaaaaaaat people seriously thought it was a fixed hop? lol
I think they got that impression from botched installs...

I can see how the difference between "sky high" and "I'm shooting down some satellites" can seem the same.

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Old October 15th, 2013, 17:15   #65
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whaaaaaaat people seriously thought it was a fixed hop? lol
You mean it's not?!
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Old October 15th, 2013, 17:26   #66
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Now I kinda wanna do this to my new TM MP5k...
I support this
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Old October 15th, 2013, 17:45   #67
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Il give you guys the results after I convert my low fps mp5k from flat hop to r-hop. Probably won't see much of a difference but who knows.

Il toss in a factory CA hop rubber and shoot some test with that too just for reference between factory, flat hop, and r-hop.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 17:54   #68
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On another note - we'll be stocking M-Nubs starting this Saturday.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 18:10   #69
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sweeet.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 03:01   #70
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Finally got around to installing a custom patch in my mp5k. 300~ fps with .20's shot it today with very minimal wind, hop tuned to a flat trajectory, shooting .30 bb's gave me a maximum effective engagement distance of 175'. Torso sized targets, easy. BB's were dropping to the ground @ 190-200'

This was measured with a 100' tape.

Pretty crazy for such a low fps. Yes the bb's were a tad bit slow getting there but still. Crazy.


I re-tested my stock g&g Mp5 SD6 r-hopped with the .30g bb's too since all I had were .28's before and they were slightly over hopping with the hop adjusted to the off position. 380~ fps with .20's Flat trajectory now with the .30's, max effective engagement distance of 210', bb's were dropping to the ground at 225'-230' Once again, crazy. I don't plan on using a long gun ever again :P

NEXT THOUGHT

Now one thing I did notice now that I've got the r-hop in both my mp5's is that the barrel inner diameter on the cheap CA sportline mp5k is very large. I don't have a means to measure it but dropping a bb into it and looking at how much light is around the bb to the inner bore of the barrel is substantially more than the barrel from the G&G sd6. I believe the sd6 has a 6.03 or 6.04 factory tight bore. Now the sd6 shoots fairly accurately, even out at 200' I dont need more than a volley of 3 bb's to get reliable hits.

BUT now that the mp5k is r-hopped I noticed it was much more consistent with its shot to shot accuracy and exact range each bb flew to at its maximum distance.

Im seriously starting to lean towards the whole Bigger = Better when it comes to inner barrel diameter and upgraded hopups including the r-hop. Orga Magnus. They are onto something! And let me tell you, the inside of the mp5k barrel is disgusting, it looks like someone reamed the end out with a drill, there are dents that are visible on the inside, and I swear someone cleaned it with a wire brush. And still, Im getting excellent accuracy and consistency out of it. Why? Im thinking its all because of the wide bore. The bb is barely in contact with the barrel on its way out. Im getting the complete potential of the r-hop, because the bb isn't contacting the inside of the barrel much at all to deviate it from its perfect spin applied by the hop. The most interesting part is that the mp5k is shooting a solid 80 fps less than the sd6, yet my max effective engagement distance is only 25-30' more with the hotter gun...

Now if the Orga barrels weren't $100 + shipping, I would gladly swap one in my sd6 to test the theory. But I'd rather save that kinda of scratch for other things. So someone please send me a stock TM, or CA inner! Im sure they have to be in the 6.08~ inner diameter ball park.

When I get my hands on one, you can be assured that I will hit the range and test it out.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 15:42   #71
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The reason it's better is because the imperfections on the barrel wall have less effect on the BB when they're further away. The air cushion reduces inaccuracy due to fouling or shitty barrel lol
There's no reason to get a 6.23 over a 6.13 though. The 6.23 is just ridiculous.
Like I keep saying, once the BB is stabilized, it's stabilized, and no amount of longer barrel, tighter OR wider bore, or extra smooth barrel quality will ever make it any more stabilized.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 01:50   #72
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Gamed my SD6 today, it was about 0 degrees here today and snowing like a bitch. Although it was a great time in the tree's.

Anyways, I got some amazing long distance kills today with my smg

Crazy range, and crazy punching power through the dead brush with .30's

Very Happy R-hop user here. Just install one already.
Thats about all the input I have for this thread. Play hard!
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 15:31   #73
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I know nothing about r-hop..but it's intrigued me. Would this work on GBBP's =P having a ridiculously accurate pistol is appealing. I assume r-hop would work better on guns that are more consistent ie. aeg's and polarstars.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 15:49   #74
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Its not that more consistent guns work better with rhops, its that more consistent guns just work better lol

So far it doesnt offer huge gains over high quality hop rubbers but its still an upgrade.
Yes it does work on gbbp's and ill be experimenting on it this winter
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 18:37   #75
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please do. I'm using RA-tech's A+ hop up rubber and it's decent but I'm still not getting a neutral hop..im curious as to how an RHop would perform
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