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Old June 15th, 2011, 10:17   #1
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Canada Post services suspended nationwide

Well it looks like it finally happend due to the strike. Canada Post doesn't want to lose more money and make Canadians pay for it (CP is a government agency but is usually self-sufficient and profitable)

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Old June 15th, 2011, 13:45   #2
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

I have a body in the mail.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 13:53   #3
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[...](CP is a government agency but is usually self-sufficient and profitable)

http://clients.infopost.ca/en/
It's actually in their mandate to be self sufficient.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 13:56   #4
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its bullshit if you ask me

First union starts rolling strikes and then CP comes back with layoffs and revoked benefits for all CP employees

Not no mail services at all

just bullshit
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:02   #5
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

I have a body in the mail.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
Is the person alive?
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:03   #6
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Guess what? That's what Unions can expect these days for striking. Not satisfied with your unskilled labor $60/yr job? There are hundreds of thousands of people out there ready to fill your boots for a fraction of the pay.

I've had it with Unions and the bullshit demands they put on the employer, at least when it comes to government or crown corporations. If they push to the point where it's affecting the company's bottom line, they'll be shown the door, as they should, and the company can hire people who will be happy for the work.

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Canada Post's union says the Crown corporation was irresponsible when it suspended urban mail operations across the country starting Wednesday.

The union said the decision by Canada Post's management means a large amount of mail already in the system will sit undelivered.

“Today, all postal workers were ready – the letter carriers as well – to distribute the mail everywhere in the country,” union president Denis Lemelin said at a press conference.

“We were truly fulfilling our commitment to see to it that the public receives their mail.”

Mr. Lemelin called for a meeting with Canada Post chief executive Deepak Chopra and called on him to commit to allow postal workers to deliver social assistance and other cheques.

Canada Post abruptly shut down operations across the country late Tuesday evening, locking out some 50,000 workers just as rotating strikes ended in Canada’s two largest cities.

In a statement, the corporation said it had accrued almost $100-million in losses since the job action started and cited uncertainty for customers, a lack of progress at the negotiating table and “several incidents” that raised safety concerns.

“The instability is really causing our customers to have a serious doubt about our ability to deliver the mail, even if it’s a rotating strike. This has pushed us to do a lockout as a way to really try to resolve this as quickly as possible,” said Anick Losier, a spokeswoman for Canada Post.

Canada Post’s decision – which affects urban centres but will slow mail to a trickle in rural areas – appeared to catch employees off guard. Members of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers said the corporation had not notified them of its plans in advance and workers were surprised to be blocked from facilities when they showed up to begin their shifts late Tuesday.

Union representatives said Canada Post’s latest move appeared to be designed to get the government to legislate striking employees back to work.

“It’s irresponsible for Canada Post to do that because Canada Post is a Crown corporation committed to give services to the population and we know there’s mail in the system,” said Denis Lemelin, CUPW’s national president and chief negotiator.

The union has been staging rotating, single-day strikes in various cities and towns for 12 days. The largest work stoppages, in Toronto and Montreal, happened Tuesday.

The federal government had appeared to rule out back-to-work legislation earlier this week, but Labour Minister Lisa Raitt said Wednesday that she is considering bringing in legislation to end the strike.

The union has so far fiercely resisted key concessions.

To bring costs in line with a shrinking business model, Canada Post has proposed a two-tier compensation system that would see new employees get paid less than current employees ($19 an hour compared with $24 an hour), fewer days off and a less generous pension plan. To take advantage of new sorting equipment, the post office also wants to make changes to work methods for letter carriers that will allow it to get by with fewer workers in the future.

“Canada Post and CUPW remain far apart on several fundamental issues and there has been no progress made at the negotiating table for weeks,” the corporation said in the statement. “We believe that a lockout is the best way to bring a timely resolution to this impasse and force the union to seriously consider proposals that address the declining mail volumes and the $3.2-billion pension deficit.

Ms. Losier declined to specify the incidents that raised safety concerns for Canada Post. Mr. Lemelin said that people may have been stopped and asked to respect picket lines, but said there had been no violence. “I think it’s a false argument accusing the worker,” he said.

Mr. Lemelin noted that pension and social-assistance cheques come out on Monday, which the union had an agreement to deliver. “We hope that Canada Post will fulfill this commitment,” he said.

Canadians had already been feeling the effects of the labour dispute, not just from the rotating strikes, but because Canada Post had scaled back mail delivery in cities to Mondays, Wednesday and Fridays before declaring the lockout. The union had said the cutback was an attempt by the corporation to provoke a general strike.

The current country-wide suspension of urban mail is likely to have a wider impact.

Although the labour dispute does not include rural postal workers, who fall under a different contract, even the post office has acknowledged that a prolonged lockout could mean they would eventually little mail to deliver.

With a report from The Canadian Press
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:10   #7
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Well fantastic. Just when I have my SPR front end coming in the mail. Shower o'cunts. The whole fucking lot.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:23   #8
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That just means I'll be busy as hell. I work at Fedex probably get alot more of CP's parcel mail now.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:48   #9
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I have a body in the mail.
when did you order it? before or after talks of possible strikes, rotating strikes and full strikes?

I know a lot of people were rolling the dice and sending/ordering stuff. but in all honesty, you knew better.

we had one customer who refused to have us ship it any way but Canada Post, even though we could have sent it many other ways for less money and or faster. they were warned of possible delays in shipping with CP but flat out said no.

Most of our outgoing has been strictly via canpar and most of our customers and vendors have been more than satisfied for multiple reasons. faster shipping and cheaper bottom line. the only issue is that if there isn't someone available to sign for it, the hubs/depots are far and few between.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 14:53   #10
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@coachster: I ordered it in April, but the seller "forgot" about me and finally shipped it yesterday...
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Old June 15th, 2011, 15:11   #11
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Union entitlement

I find it amusing that CUPW has no idea that they are negotiating for the survival of any Union jobs at CP.

They are so far out of touch that negotiation is pointless.

CP is talking about cutting the workforce, in half if they can .. and the union is asking for more money.. it's laughable.

CUPW is a stinking corpse left un-buried far too long.

They have no idea the DHL is sniffing around to buy the whole thing..
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Old June 15th, 2011, 15:21   #12
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I find it amusing that CUPW has no idea that they are negotiating for the survival of any Union jobs at CP.

They are so far out of touch that negotiation is pointless.

CP is talking about cutting the workforce, in half if they can .. and the union is asking for more money.. it's laughable.

CUPW is a stinking corpse left un-buried far too long.

They have no idea the DHL is sniffing around to buy the whole thing..
That's just it. I mean seriously, who uses the mail today? Apart from paper bills (which many companies are phasing out in favor of e-billing), I get nothing but list-based ad-mail from people like Enersource or other utilities which are bound contractually to use CPC in order to keep their government grants.

My dad got rich off direct mail / direct marketting. Then he lost all that wealth when the internet made it obsolete. CPC is losing piles of money in wages, benefits and pensions, keeping jobs because the Union has threatened to strike if they cut them. Well guess what, out you go, in comes a fancy new machine.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 15:42   #13
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Old June 15th, 2011, 15:49   #14
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hi... so where do I apply for a job that starts at $19 an hour that requires no prior experience? I'll take that in a second.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 15:59   #15
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Apply at Canada Post. I figure they'll be hiring shortly.
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