BB Bastard "Sniper Grade" 0.36g and 0.40g review

[Scarecrow]

Like I said guys, if you want this product I will carry it, but its contingent on you guys liking the product and wanting me to carry it. If the verdict is it does what you want it to do, I'll carry it - this batch was a one-off, but I'll get more done and at a better price as well.

[CDN_Stalker]

So far so good for me, too bad I have to wait til at least the end of the month to get some 'distance' time, either at my babe's farm or the first LZ game on the 4th.

Was firing off some groups the other night and still am impressed with both weights, even shot a group of five 0.20g BBs (wasn't aware the size of the hole those things from my M24 make!), even thought I'd shoot five at each target, then realized I dont' have any 0.28g! Grrr, TESTIE!!!!!!

Still have to grab some chrony results, know I'll get the usual 100fps difference between the 0.20g and the 0.36g, but am interested in the 0.40g velocity. And see the consistancies as per norm.

[CDN_Stalker]

OK, here are some inital results from chronying with my TM MK23 springer, and I'm weirded out by shots #7 and #8 using the 0.36g. Second verification set will bring out any flaws in gun or BB (my springer is the most consistant gun I own, is why I use it to find the best data for BB chrony strings). All rounds shot are Bastards BTW.

0.20g

216.7
218.7
221.3
217.1
216.7
221.5
217.0
215.1
220.9
215.4

0.36g

153.1
159.6
159.1
155.8
154.6
156.5
157.3
175.0?
149.8?
154.7

0.40g

147.0
147.4
142.8
143.3
145.5
143.0
144.7
146.9
145.9
145.7

Is odd that I don't see the 100fps drop that I'm used to between 0.20g BB and the Straight 0.36g BBs (only ones previously available in that weight), so this means that the Bastard 0.36g are bigger and much more consistant, even the 0.40g don't show the 100fps drop. Both are more impressive to me now!

[FOX_111]

Anyone compared to Madbull's equivalent?
Some friend of mind pointed out the similitudes of these two brand of BBs.

I got some BB bastard heavy weight and I'll be comparing them with Madbull equivalent when I get my hands on them soon.

[Donster]

nice compilation so far stalker. keep em coming. though i too and really puzzled to those last 2 shots with .36g. that is just weird.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

nice compilation so far stalker. keep em coming. though i too and really puzzled to those last 2 shots with .36g. that is just weird.

Is why I'm going to run a second round of tests to see if it's my gun or the BBs. But will also be doing it with my M24, so two runs each with spring guns..........should weed out where the problem might lie. Still, the 0.36g results are better than I've seen with 0.36g Straights............

[EDWARD I. MAIDEN]

Good day or should I say good evening to you...I truly appreciate the time you took to review these two caliber's of bbs. I recently aquired a DSR-1 sniper rifle and was wondering what a heavier gauge of ammo would result in...now I know..40 seems to be the way to go!..THANKS!

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

Anyone compared to Madbull's equivalent?
Some friend of mind pointed out the similitudes of these two brand of BBs.

I got some BB bastard heavy weight and I'll be comparing them with Madbull equivalent when I get my hands on them soon.

My experience with madbull bb's the first and only time was horrible... they misfed, no velocity, dual fed, ect in both my guns, both tightbores, as well as several others at the game, worked fine with standard barrels, but did not work at all in tightbores... Always stick with Bastards from now on.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

Anyone compared to Madbull's equivalent?
Some friend of mind pointed out the similitudes of these two brand of BBs.

In the .36gr and .40gr the colors are the same because of the materials used. Once you start getting past .30 you're limited in your choices of substrate material, but there are differences in manufacturing, finishing etc. I've spoken with my supplier and they assured me that they are not the manufacturer for Madbull. I admit I was taken aback when I saw the Madbull product at TAC09, but on closer inspection there are differences, so I am pretty sure I am not being fed a line.

[CDN_Stalker]

I plan to run another batch of tests AFTER I give the BBs a good wash to get the oil off them, and possibly the colouration is smearing is an issue with them. I prefer my sniper ammo to be dry, completely.

[FOX_111]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

In the .36gr and .40gr the colors are the same because of the materials used. Once you start getting past .30 you're limited in your choices of substrate material, but there are differences in manufacturing, finishing etc. I've spoken with my supplier and they assured me that they are not the manufacturer for Madbull. I admit I was taken aback when I saw the Madbull product at TAC09, but on closer inspection there are differences, so I am pretty sure I am not being fed a line.

That's conforting... I had the feeling I was ripped off.
I had a hard time beleiving you would put your name on the line to pass us rebranded BBs.

[Jixton]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

I got some BB bastard heavy weight and I'll be comparing them with Madbull equivalent when I get my hands on them soon.

Damn it Fox, I totaly forgot to give you some of my 0.40 madbull bbs. Next time.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

Is why I'm going to run a second round of tests to see if it's my gun or the BBs. But will also be doing it with my M24, so two runs each with spring guns..........should weed out where the problem might lie. Still, the 0.36g results are better than I've seen with 0.36g Straights............

well isn't that because the straights are grossly inconsistant? i thought i remember you saying that they were incredibly inconcsistant in terms of diameter and such. as for the bb inconsistancy, perhaps it was a fluke, whereby those two particular bbs actually weight less than .36g.

[CDN_Stalker]

Ya, some guy in the US measured the Straights and from one to another of the random BBs in the same bag found 5.88-5.94mm at times. And the inner bubbles were often off center too, makes them fly worse.

[CDN_Stalker]

Ok, did another couple strings, and check this first one out, have a very small stash of 0.36g BBs left, best way to compare weight vs. weight of the only two 0.36g BBs available. TM MK23 springer same as before, 0.36g Bastards vs. 0.36g Straight BBs.

0.36g Bastards

153.1
159.6
159.1
155.8
154.6
156.5
157.3
175.0?
149.8?
154.7


0.36g Straights (graphite washed off)

132.0
146.2
136.7
152.6
136.3
152.8
133.6
133.7
136.1
140.5

Bastards for the win!

And, next up, ran a string of 0.20g through my M24 (nice to see, hadn't done much testing since I swapped out and tuned it last year)

500.0
498.0
498.6
499.0
499.7
495.5
498.8
500.7
502.0
500.9

Will add all results together once I'm done, that way one can look at the readings in one thread instead of numerous ones.