KWC S&W 40f

The Lonely SCAR · November 1st, 2009, 14:00

I purchased this pistol from my local surplus store for $99.99. At first glance I was skeptical about the quality, but after taking it out of the crappy clam packaging i really got excited about the weight of the gun, or should i say the mag. The mag actually weights a little more than the gun it self. The frame is a really nice solid ABS plastic, the inside where the slide meets the frame is metal. The slide on the other hand is bad plastic, very brittle and just plain crap it feels like u good snap it in two with one hand, I will need to replace it with a metal one but for now it is fine. The internals are very nice full metal and seem pretty durable, although the barrel and hop up could use some work because the accuracy is pretty bad. The power is really high I chronographed mine with .20g BB bastard and it was shooting around 400 fps. Which from what I have read is a bit high to actually game with, especially in CQB which pistols are made for. So I was a little disappointing but I never really play that much with other people just target practice so its alright. The magazine is one of the biggest downfalls of this gun read the pro's and Con's for info.

Pro's
great plastic on frame
price
looks great after paint job (personal preference)
good internals
feels very good in hand
power (could be a con)
capacity(only good part about mag)
uncommon (I don't like to be the same, that's why i don't have an m4)
Individual serial code
trades (poorly engraved though)

Con's
CO2 (if you have lots of $$$ it could be a pro)
slide (bad plastic)
accuracy (longer barrel should fix it)
lack of aftermarket parts (that's what I get for trying to be different)
magazine (expensive, heavy, cant fit in normal mag pouches, the little bit where you pull down the spring is plastic and fell off, I don't know if mine was just a lemon but when i got it both sides of the feed nozzle were bent in and since it is built into the magazine i had to take a very sharp knife and shave off some metal on the nozzle so that the bb's could fit through)

Both the slide and frame were clear so I quickly grabbed my krylon paint and painters tape and took it to my garage. I am still a big noob to airsoft and painting airsoft. So dont be to critical about my paint job........ or my photography.

pictures coming as soon as I figure out how to post them lol

Lou

notec · November 1st, 2009, 16:46

I have the Softair S&W Sigma 40f.........pretty much the same as yours but mine has a fake silencer and a longer inner barrel with the metal slide.......I love it. I will try to post pictures of mine later.

Gunny_McSmith · November 1st, 2009, 20:07

give it around 10 mags, and you'll start to see a large crack at the front of the plastic slide, wich would eventually break it, because of the high pressure from the co2....

so if i was you, I'll go return it... (since everything made for this gun is discontinued everywhere)

The Lonely SCAR · November 2nd, 2009, 05:51

It's only $99.99 if it breaks it's not that big a loss.

Diabolic Tyrant · November 2nd, 2009, 09:48

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Originally Posted by The Lonely SCAR

It's only $99.99 if it breaks it's not that big a loss.

but its $100 better spent on something else. If your being warned that it WILL break then its no different then flush a hundred dollar bill down the toliet. and if 100 isnt such a big loss, shit spread the love send some my way.

The Lonely SCAR · November 2nd, 2009, 10:53

lol I'm Going to buy a KWA g36c next, and your right might just sell it if I need some extra cash. Plus I'm more of a collector and less of a gamer so my guns tend to barely take any damage other than target practice.

Diabolic Tyrant · November 2nd, 2009, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lonely SCAR

lol I'm Going to buy a KWA g36c next, and your right might just sell it if I need some extra cash. Plus I'm more of a collector and less of a gamer so my guns tend to barely take any damage other than target practice.

Judging by the fact you arent AVd and you are buying cansoft im guessing your underage. Wait till your 18 and buy something worth your cash. As said in one of the FAQs just because you have a gun doesnt mean your allowed to play. Collecting airsoft is kinda useless too underage cause both A: Its a waste of money as that could be spent on a car or new tv, and B: If you dont want them any more then you cant sell them on here and if they are sold on craigs list they will more than likely be flagged for removal. Wait till your 18 and avd then buy a gun.

KoolAidMan · November 4th, 2009, 00:51

you just made me realise that your allowed to drive at 16 but not play airsoft . thats kinda backwards ? isn't it?

Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw · November 4th, 2009, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolAidMan

you just made me realise that your allowed to drive at 16 but not play airsoft . thats kinda backwards ? isn't it?

Dude, once you stop trying to justify or comprehend the laws around airsoft the more sensible your life is gonna be. Their the way they are. Their not gonna change any time soon. They don't make sense. Their not in place to make anyone happy other than soccer moms who seem to be the ones running the country. Just come to terms with this already.

You can also shoot real guns before your 18 too, don't let that one fry your noggin too much either.

KoolAidMan · November 4th, 2009, 02:07

Don't mind me i tend to notice things most people pass by without a glance or everthink somethings .

things are good the way they are now in airsoft keeps out undesirable people from getting there hands on them.

Frozen Tex · November 4th, 2009, 08:27

Hell, a friend of mine is gonna buy a Real Steel 1911 for less than I paid for my GBB 1911...

That'll blow your mind right there... the real thing is cheaper and easier to get than the toy.

KoolAidMan · November 4th, 2009, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozen Tex

Hell, a friend of mine is gonna buy a Real Steel 1911 for less than I paid for my GBB 1911...

That'll blow your mind right there... the real thing is cheaper and easier to get than the toy.

What has the world come to when a toy of a gun cost more then the real thing.... lol

notec · November 4th, 2009, 16:49

Dunno, you ever check prices south of the border....lol
http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.airsoft
They are probably crap though :-)

MoreToasties · November 4th, 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by notec

Dunno, you ever check prices south of the border....lol
http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.airsoft
They are probably crap though :-)

Those are absolute pieces of shit.

Worse quality than Taco Bell.

notec · November 4th, 2009, 16:55

Would make for good static displays eh....lol
Or wanna be gangstas

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November 1st, 2009, 14:00	#1
The Lonely SCAR Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Windsor,NS	KWC S&W 40f I purchased this pistol from my local surplus store for $99.99. At first glance I was skeptical about the quality, but after taking it out of the crappy clam packaging i really got excited about the weight of the gun, or should i say the mag. The mag actually weights a little more than the gun it self. The frame is a really nice solid ABS plastic, the inside where the slide meets the frame is metal. The slide on the other hand is bad plastic, very brittle and just plain crap it feels like u good snap it in two with one hand, I will need to replace it with a metal one but for now it is fine. The internals are very nice full metal and seem pretty durable, although the barrel and hop up could use some work because the accuracy is pretty bad. The power is really high I chronographed mine with .20g BB bastard and it was shooting around 400 fps. Which from what I have read is a bit high to actually game with, especially in CQB which pistols are made for. So I was a little disappointing but I never really play that much with other people just target practice so its alright. The magazine is one of the biggest downfalls of this gun read the pro's and Con's for info. Pro's great plastic on frame price looks great after paint job (personal preference) good internals feels very good in hand power (could be a con) capacity(only good part about mag) uncommon (I don't like to be the same, that's why i don't have an m4) Individual serial code trades (poorly engraved though) Con's CO2 (if you have lots of $$$ it could be a pro) slide (bad plastic) accuracy (longer barrel should fix it) lack of aftermarket parts (that's what I get for trying to be different) magazine (expensive, heavy, cant fit in normal mag pouches, the little bit where you pull down the spring is plastic and fell off, I don't know if mine was just a lemon but when i got it both sides of the feed nozzle were bent in and since it is built into the magazine i had to take a very sharp knife and shave off some metal on the nozzle so that the bb's could fit through) Both the slide and frame were clear so I quickly grabbed my krylon paint and painters tape and took it to my garage. I am still a big noob to airsoft and painting airsoft. So dont be to critical about my paint job........ or my photography. pictures coming as soon as I figure out how to post them lol Lou __________________ It's all fun and games until someone pops a smoke.

November 1st, 2009, 16:46	#2
notec Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saint John NB	I have the Softair S&W Sigma 40f.........pretty much the same as yours but mine has a fake silencer and a longer inner barrel with the metal slide.......I love it. I will try to post pictures of mine later. Last edited by notec; November 1st, 2009 at 17:23.. Reason: Add pictures

November 1st, 2009, 20:07	#3
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	give it around 10 mags, and you'll start to see a large crack at the front of the plastic slide, wich would eventually break it, because of the high pressure from the co2.... so if i was you, I'll go return it... (since everything made for this gun is discontinued everywhere) __________________

November 2nd, 2009, 05:51	#4
The Lonely SCAR Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Windsor,NS	It's only $99.99 if it breaks it's not that big a loss. __________________ It's all fun and games until someone pops a smoke.

November 2nd, 2009, 10:53	#6
The Lonely SCAR Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Windsor,NS	lol I'm Going to buy a KWA g36c next, and your right might just sell it if I need some extra cash. Plus I'm more of a collector and less of a gamer so my guns tend to barely take any damage other than target practice. __________________ It's all fun and games until someone pops a smoke.

November 4th, 2009, 08:27	#11
Frozen Tex Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Yellowknife, NT, Great White North	Hell, a friend of mine is gonna buy a Real Steel 1911 for less than I paid for my GBB 1911... That'll blow your mind right there... the real thing is cheaper and easier to get than the toy. __________________ Delenda Est Carthago

November 4th, 2009, 16:49	#13
notec Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saint John NB	Dunno, you ever check prices south of the border....lol http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.airsoft They are probably crap though :-)

November 4th, 2009, 16:55	#15
notec Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saint John NB	Would make for good static displays eh....lol Or wanna be gangstas

KWC S&W 40f

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