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Maverick0 · July 30th, 2008, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

If it was easily remedied.. it would heve been

By that, I mean the solution to the problem is easily accomplished. Either a refund or a simple communication to the parties involved would have at least delayed any legal proceedings until the mentioned Sept. 08 release date of the shipment.

Anyways, It's obvious that lack of communication on the retailer's part is to blame at this point. The ball is in Mark's court. He's got to answer the people he owes goods or money to, one way or another.

ThunderCactus · July 30th, 2008, 17:35

Fact is he has the permits, but even those permits don't allow 100% of airsoft through the border, CBSA can withhold anything they want regardless of permits, money, or common sense.

ValkXB70 · July 30th, 2008, 18:06

Forgive my ignorance, but if these were pre-ordered items that are now sitting in customs awaiting disposition why should there be a refund? I can understand demanding a refund if the order did not happen, but that does not appear to be the case here.

If you were the importer would you refund a pre-order that is awaiting customs inspection? If you did what are you going to do with the items that you are now on the hook for?

Drache · July 30th, 2008, 18:10

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Originally Posted by ValkXB70

Forgive my ignorance, but if these were pre-ordered items that are now sitting in customs awaiting disposition why should there be a refund? I can understand demanding a refund if the order did not happen, but that does not appear to be the case here.

If you were the importer would you refund a pre-order that is awaiting customs inspection? If you did what are you going to do with the items that you are now on the hook for?

We are talking about refunding the MARKUP PROFIT, not the initial cost of buying the guns. One some guns there is a $500 markup cost OR MORE! If Mark refunded that he would be out nothing.

Tex · July 30th, 2008, 18:31

drache you have no clue how much markup there was if you did you would know there is not $500 profit on a $200 gun. why are you so interested in this if you have nothing to do with it? read some other threads about importing and the costs of doing it. the profit is slim to nil.

Amos · July 30th, 2008, 18:41

Mark Anderson is a reasonable guy... A busy guy, be he is reasonable. I'd recommend sending him an Email... Seems he's taken notice that people are sick of waiting and want their money. I'd recommend sending him a polite email, backing it up with record of payment (EMT or whatever)...

I'm currently waiting for my refund by EMT to land in my email box

Drache · July 30th, 2008, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Tex

drache you have no clue how much markup there was if you did you would know there is not $500 profit on a $200 gun. why are you so interested in this if you have nothing to do with it? read some other threads about importing and the costs of doing it. the profit is slim to nil.

I have pre-ordered guns from Mark and the markup (no pun intended) was 300%! Besides what I said was a "figure of speech"....

Tex · July 30th, 2008, 19:03

that does not mean he PROFITED 300%! like you think.

ThunderCactus · July 30th, 2008, 19:44

Do some math and figure out how much it costs to expedite a triwall full of airsoft. I'll give you a hint: NOT CHEAP
However some airsoft guns are marked up a LOT more than others, but I'm not going to say which ones because they'll be extremely pissed off to find out

kalnaren · July 30th, 2008, 20:23

I remember he had the JLS Fn2000 marked up over 700%....

amano999 · July 30th, 2008, 21:06

I lost out on this order as well.

From now on unless its in country I ain't buying.

From what some others lost tho seem like i got off easy :P

arman · July 30th, 2008, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Drache

Here should be the deal! IF ITS SUCH A GAMBLE then why doesn't Mark give back the PROFIT from the guns? If you send him $700 for an AEG, mark buys that AEG from the USA for $200, but it gets confiscated, shouldn't mark give the $500 profit back?

+1 at the verry least he coulda done that...

RacingManiac · July 30th, 2008, 22:15

Well a KJW 1911 is ~$90, Redwolf probably charged maybe $30-40 for shipping...I paid $330....so quite a bit...

again though I don't think there are much point of pursuing since legally the product purchased is on shaky ground, the risk is always there for importing items....costly lesson to learn, but thats just how it is...

Drache · July 30th, 2008, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Well a KJW 1911 is ~$90, Redwolf probably charged maybe $30-40 for shipping...I paid $330....so quite a bit...

again though I don't think there are much point of pursuing since legally the product purchased is on shaky ground, the risk is always there for importing items....costly lesson to learn, but thats just how it is...

I can walk into Chilcotin Guns right now and ask for a restricted firearm imported in from the States and I dont have to pay a dime until it arrives. Of course I've done lots of business with them but even then, it was MAYBE a 25% deposit required.

If you are a business then ACT like a business!

Brian McIlmoyle · July 31st, 2008, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache

I can walk into Chilcotin Guns right now and ask for a restricted firearm imported in from the States and I dont have to pay a dime until it arrives. Of course I've done lots of business with them but even then, it was MAYBE a 25% deposit required.

If you are a business then ACT like a business!

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July 30th, 2008, 18:31	#80
Tex Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Abbotsford, B.C.	drache you have no clue how much markup there was if you did you would know there is not $500 profit on a $200 gun. why are you so interested in this if you have nothing to do with it? read some other threads about importing and the costs of doing it. the profit is slim to nil. __________________ W-69 _/\|

July 30th, 2008, 18:41	#81
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokushima, Japan	Mark Anderson is a reasonable guy... A busy guy, be he is reasonable. I'd recommend sending him an Email... Seems he's taken notice that people are sick of waiting and want their money. I'd recommend sending him a polite email, backing it up with record of payment (EMT or whatever)... I'm currently waiting for my refund by EMT to land in my email box __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

July 30th, 2008, 19:03	#83
Tex Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Abbotsford, B.C.	that does not mean he PROFITED 300%! like you think. __________________ W-69 _/\|

July 30th, 2008, 17:35	#77
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Fact is he has the permits, but even those permits don't allow 100% of airsoft through the border, CBSA can withhold anything they want regardless of permits, money, or common sense.

July 30th, 2008, 18:06	#78
ValkXB70 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Winnipeg MB	Forgive my ignorance, but if these were pre-ordered items that are now sitting in customs awaiting disposition why should there be a refund? I can understand demanding a refund if the order did not happen, but that does not appear to be the case here. If you were the importer would you refund a pre-order that is awaiting customs inspection? If you did what are you going to do with the items that you are now on the hook for?

July 30th, 2008, 19:44	#84
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Do some math and figure out how much it costs to expedite a triwall full of airsoft. I'll give you a hint: NOT CHEAP However some airsoft guns are marked up a LOT more than others, but I'm not going to say which ones because they'll be extremely pissed off to find out

July 30th, 2008, 21:06	#86
amano999 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada	I lost out on this order as well. From now on unless its in country I ain't buying. From what some others lost tho seem like i got off easy :P __________________ Team GHOSTS - Fides et Amicitia G-69

July 30th, 2008, 22:15	#88
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Well a KJW 1911 is ~$90, Redwolf probably charged maybe $30-40 for shipping...I paid $330....so quite a bit... again though I don't think there are much point of pursuing since legally the product purchased is on shaky ground, the risk is always there for importing items....costly lesson to learn, but thats just how it is... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

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