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Old September 27th, 2010, 20:11   #1
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G&G Max - VS. - ICS M4

hello ,well im looking at buying a full metal m4 CQBR. ive been looking at buying the ics version (i had a consoft ics i just sold) and really like ics. ive already bought a bunch of Magpul stuff for the new gun (i know it DOES work on ics), and now that the new G&G Max have come out i dont know what to go for:

G&G Max:
Detuned to 380FPS
Full Metal
1 piece mech box
aluminum piston
tm compatible
ASCU Available
Cheaper


ICS
330FPS - will require more money to upgrade later
Full Metal
2 piece mech box
ICS Specific (not terible i guess)
ASCU coming soon
Expensive



DONT FLAME ME!! I HAVE GOOGLED/YOUTUBE'd!!

im asking mainly for a COMPARISON of the 2 guns, for both performance, and durability. i NEED this gun to be 110% solid with NO wobles, and i know that the ICS fits this description.

so... anyone got any recomendations?

finished result wanted:

ASCU
6.01 short m4
full metal/polymer gun to be able to take a beating
380~ FPS
systema carbon fiber gears
iron sights magpul?
11.1/7.4v lipo (high rof)
but mainly a very accurate/consistant gun in a small package


okay that probably seemed like a jumble of words ^ lol
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Old September 27th, 2010, 20:16   #2
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G&G will be better -- they use mostly TM compatible internals.

ICS has quite a bit of proprietary stuff.
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Old September 27th, 2010, 20:36   #3
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do up the g&g
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Old September 27th, 2010, 20:42   #4
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Ya man, I picked up an ICS and trying to find compatible parts is like trying to find an innocent guy in jail.
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Old September 27th, 2010, 21:21   #5
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I play with a guy who own a G&G M16 max every Friday, and I got say, it's one of those gun where you turn you back on but then it bites you in the buttocks.

I own an ICS M16, to be honest, it's not as good as the G&G max, but I get by. We're both in very different play style.

I toss in quite a bit upgrade for the ICS, and compatibility within gearbox is like every other gun, except the anti-reversal latch. Also, I couldn't get a CA Trigger assembly to replace the ICS one because my burn out after a day playing in the rain... In the end, I just took both the trigger assembly apart and just switch out the metal/wire parts, fits like a charm.

In the end, it all comes down to personal preference.

I like the ability to switch fps within seconds, but don't like the external compatibility of ICS guns. I like the metal body of G&G Max and their pre-upgraded internal.

Just my thought.
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Old September 27th, 2010, 23:27   #6
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thanks for the comments!!

well to be honest im still leaning toward the ICS. as far as being prepriatory, im not to concerned, as im a former ICS owner. as far as internals go id be ding somthing like:

systema gears (carbon fiber?)
new upper gearbox, with m110
PDI 6.01mm
ive got 7.4v 22c 1900mah lipo, but might go for 11.1
ASCU

as far as the externals, Magpul XTM Rail covers, PTS foregrip, PTS CTR stock, and PTS MBUS sights - which DO fit ICS :P (arleady pre-tested)

if i went G&G im kinda scared of the one piece mech box :S dont know why, but im worried as far as maintenance, upgrades.

the name ICS seems "High end" to me compared to G&G... idk.. how are they as far as integrity, and reliability??

HELP!!
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Old September 27th, 2010, 23:34   #7
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ICS are good airsoft rifle and are quite reliable.

Had one for 3 years with no problems at all.
External parts need some work but fit in the end.

Just sold one because i wanted to go the gbbr way.
Didn't play with it except plinking but the qualitity was on par with my old one.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=110501

Hope this help make your decision.
I list the upgrade i made to it.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:22   #8
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http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=110501

Hope this help make your decision.
I list the upgrade i made to it.
thanks, but im not AV'd yet, so i cant view the thread stupid AV =P jk
ive just kept procrastinating on it.. i guess i should get it done soon...
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:25   #9
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thanks for the comments!!

well to be honest im still leaning toward the ICS. as far as being prepriatory, im not to concerned, as im a former ICS owner. as far as internals go id be ding somthing like:

systema gears (carbon fiber?)
new upper gearbox, with m110
PDI 6.01mm
ive got 7.4v 22c 1900mah lipo, but might go for 11.1
ASCU

as far as the externals, Magpul XTM Rail covers, PTS foregrip, PTS CTR stock, and PTS MBUS sights - which DO fit ICS :P (arleady pre-tested)

if i went G&G im kinda scared of the one piece mech box :S dont know why, but im worried as far as maintenance, upgrades.

the name ICS seems "High end" to me compared to G&G... idk.. how are they as far as integrity, and reliability??

HELP!!
If you're gonna spend that kind of money on upgrades, get verified and buy a G&P.

No use wasting your money on low-end crap when you're obviously shooting for performance
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Old September 28th, 2010, 23:52   #10
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thanks, but im not AV'd yet, so i cant view the thread stupid AV =P jk
ive just kept procrastinating on it.. i guess i should get it done soon...
Ah... didn't notice

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...34#post1309334
In the m16/m4 thread
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Old October 1st, 2010, 00:57   #11
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well.. i went with the ICS ill post pics of it soon, with all the magpul stuff, and the 7.4v 22c 1900mah battery - wow!! that was a TIGHT fit!!!

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Are lipo batteries flexible?? ive heard both ways?
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Old October 5th, 2010, 22:19   #12
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i decided to go with the ICS!! its amazing!! will post more later

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Old July 6th, 2011, 23:04   #13
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howd you get that Noveske on what thread is the barrel; howd you get the flash hider off?
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Old July 7th, 2011, 03:33   #14
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If it's glued on, use a hairdryer to melt off the glue. Or check for a grub screw.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 12:12   #15
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Nice! Im about to get a ICS m4 CQB too! $224 USD FTW!
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