Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wasaga Beach
G&G GR16 A3 & King Arms ACOG review
Well you all have probably read many reviews of this gun, since it is now becoming the Honda Civic of airsoft, cheap reliable and well built you will probably read a lot more. To offer you a little extra though this review will also include a review of a King Arms ACOG red dot site. To begin I would have to say what a great package for the price. You get a great gun, cleaning rod, peak charger and 9.6v1400mah nimh battery, 450 round metal hi-cap mag, and some adjustment tools. Most people probably went with the M4 style, but I love the look and feel of the full size M16. The gun with magazine, sling, and ACOG weighed in at roughly 7 ľ pounds. I personally donít mind this, but it has draw backs in room clearing or close quarters, but you can make up for that in the open areas. As for the King Arms ACOG I find it to looks great, ya I am vane, but I do believe they have their purpose, and make for quick target acquisition in my opinion.
First impression of my GR16 A3 has been positive in almost every aspect. The gun feels very solid and although new, has not lost its solid feel. It helps that the stock is one piece Iím sure, but none the less a great gun to play with. The gun comes with a charger and battery and I have contacted many stores who have told me that the stock charger will support a larger G&G battery the 9.6v 4500, so for those who want an upgrade this will work, and run you around 89.00. Other upgrade options I would seriously take your time to consider if they are internal. One the barrel is a 6.035 tight bore, so no real need to mess with it, and the Version 2 gear box, is well built and very solid, already equipped with ball bearing spring guide, and a complement of metal gears, and full metal gear box. There is much more information which you can find at many sites on the net, but the point I want to make is just how stable this gun already is, and you should really consider how you spend your money since the performance gains may not be worth the investment. After putting about 1000 rounds through the gun I chronographed it with .25g bbís, sorry didnít have .20g to get a base FPS, but anyway it shot 1st round 315fps 2nd round 315fps 3rd round 310fps 4th round 313fps and 5th round 315fps.
Recently I have taken apart the gear box for maintenance and upgrades. I was very excited to see how well the Version 2 was holding up. Everything still looked bran new in there. Ball bearings were all moving smoothly, there were no metal shavings anywhere that I could find. The box was very well lubricated around all the components. I also found something out that I did not know until the tear down, and the gun is equiped with a ball bearing piston head. I knew of the spring guide, but the piston head was news to me. After I cleaned the gun up, and made sure the gears were properly aligned then I installed a PDI spring. After reading reviews on spring charts I decided to go with a PDI 150% spring hoping to achieve around 380FPS with a .20G bb, but I ended up get 383FPS with a .25g bb. and around 423fps with a .20g bb. I may try to order a PDI 140% to get the gun a little closer to 400FPS.
The King Arms ACOG that I am using with my gun is a solid 5 setting red dot, with windage and elevation adjustments. It is coated with an anti reflective lens coating and is covered in a type of rubber. There are only 5 brightness settings, but I can assure you that they cover all needs. In doors in the dark the 1st setting is perfect, if not a touch too bright, but nothing to worry about, and the brightest setting is visible outside even if you are facing in the direction of the sun. For those of you that want to mount this on the M16 carry handle with an adapter mount please note this did not work for me. I could not adjust the elevation of the ACOG to go low enough and for some reason it did not give me enough adjustment to center the dot either. Once I dropped it down these issues were gone, and now its dead center, but I did waste my money on a Guarder carry handle mount.
I have had the chance to fire roughly 5000 rounds through my G&G and it has been very reliable to date. The accuracy is still right where it was new, and I have had no need to fix or replace a single thing. I was fortunate to be able to get a feel for accuracy in an indoor environment that was roughly 70í long with a gun rest and the groupings were predictable and tight. At that distance almost all shots were within a three inch diameter of one another. Full auto grouping remained tight, but did increase the total are to maybe a 4 for 5Ē diameter. One issue that I have heard other G&G owners talk about is a feed issue, but this has not been a problem for me. At first I was using the hi-cap mag and if not wound up a lot it would sometimes not feed on full auto, or if shooting bursts. I started using King Arms 68 rounds metal mags and this problem decreased, so it may be an issue with the hi-cap and not the gun, but it is something some G&G owners deal with.
Bottom line with the G&G GR16 A3 is that I would recommend this to someone who wants to get into airsoft, or to someone who maybe just has not gotten around to get something from the Armalite family. The price is great, its very complete out of the box, and for myself up to this date has been reliable; furthermore, you can find video support offered on the Internet on taking apart and putting back together your G&G. You can find the selection of videos on Mach1 airsoft or by searching Youtube.
PROS G&G GR16 A3
Reliability: So far so good, just silicone oil and the gun is happy and healthy at 5000 rounds
Performance: .25g bbís are shooting at 315fps in nice tight groupings
Value: The gun came with everything right out of the box to have a great time, so I canít find any fault with it there.
Gear box is equiped with bearing spring guide, and bearing piston head
CONS G&G GR16 A3
Manual: The manual is very general, I would have preferred to see a full parts break down, and a walk through of the doís and doníts of breaking it down.
Stock: This is can be a pro to if you are a half glass full person, but the ample space in the stock equates to a lot of battery movement while on the run, so you need to wedge some foam in there to quite it down.
PROS King Arms ACOG red dot
Looks: Its very attractive rubber coated site.
Features: 5 brightness adjustments, elevation and windge adjustments, anti reflective coating allows it to get the job done for the most part.
CONS King Arms ACOG red dot
Adjustment: this only was an issue on the carry handle mount, but I could not adjust it far enough to center on the shots, thus wasting my money on a carry mount.
Last edited by Shaun655; July 1st, 2009 at 11:18..
Reason: chrono tested and spring upgraded