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Old August 2nd, 2008, 22:11   #87
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Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
We're not afraid of doing something. If that's what you and 808 are taking away from the past threads, you either need to read them again or think a little more deeply. We can't just do anything because we can make things worse. we need a plan that works. Since no one has provided a plan that survives the scrutiny of individuals involved in the 2003 options paper, in addition to experience lobbyists on the forum, what are you expecting?
The highlighted text is exactly why (I believe) nothing overly productive has happened in the last X years.

As for what I expect... Well, that's a bit of a loaded question (expect a long answer ). I expect an effort. From me, from you, from that guy (*points to the guy with the gun in the corner*).

Unless, of course, each and every one of us is content to just have our fun 'till "The Man" comes to close up shop, then this (and all related) discussions are just wasted breath (or finger calluses?).

On a serious note, and definitely off-topic for this thread - although it seems to be steering in this direction...

[[ Disclaimer: The following rant contains a lot of rhetorical questions directed at outer-space, no individual in particular. ]]

Why don't we start with the Opinions Paper and move forward from there? A lot has happened since then, especially in the UK. We could draw ideas from laws within the VCRA, and existing laws in the USA. We could draft amendments to existing laws and give them to lawyers/politicians to review.

As they are reviewed/rejected we can make further amendments and compromises until we have something Ottawa can potentially & realistically support.

I've said it before, and I feel I need to say it again. I am not a lawyer, and I only have a High School Education towards our country's political system. So all this may not be possible, but why not try? I mean, we did elect these people into office, didn't we? They have to at least listen, right?

Ah, but it's the long weekend, and I'm on a rant fueled by beer (Oh, Canada). So, it's about time I sign off, or oogle guns I don't have the money to buy.

I really see your point Saint, and I have no idea where to go from here, or what a next (first?) step would be. I'm actually shaking my head as I write this, because I feel like there is nothing I can do. I get the feeling a lot of us feel the same.

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