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Old February 23rd, 2008, 11:27   #49
Dog Face Killer
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Originally Posted by mcguyver View Post
If you try to import one, the information that the CBSA will go by first and foremost is the information printed on the box or in the owner's manual that comes with the gun stating it's velocity. If the box has anything other than 407-499 fps, it will be seized, end of story. If it gives an energy rating as well (rare) that states anything like "1J" (as is required in Japan and many other countries) it will be seized, end of story.

If the gun does not have the 407-499 fps on the box or in the owner's manual, and does not show any velocity at all for example, it will be seized. You can not convince the CBSA of what it shoots, they will not listen to you, nor to airsoft reviews, nor to Redwolf ads for the gun.

I can tell you now that I have not seen 1 gun that has the required info printed on the box or in the owner's manual, not 1 out of hundreds.

Easy, you make deals with airsoft manufacturers do that they have a "For Canadian import" version of the gun that fits the criteria, ie FPS rating...stickers on the box and all!

Now, you can get cheeky and let the gun get seized, and then hope to fight it on appeal knowing that you'll win because of the actual performance of the gun. But the CBSA will send it to the RCMP Firearms Forensics Lab in Regina for testing. You have no control over the test procedures, nor to you have any way to know the actual performance of the gun. You can expect the whole process of seizure to final CITT appeal to take up to 5 years. In the end, they may miraculously find that it shoots 406 fps, oopps!! Too bad. Appeal denied. Did I forget to mention the costs involved for a $450 U.S. gun to be heard through years of appeal? Contrary to stated CBSA policy, the appeals are not entirely "free of charge". If you want to have counsel present during the CITT portion to present evidence, that costs $$$.

Agreed that that is a valid potential argument...haven't gotten that far yet mind you!

This is why your idea has not historically worked, why Peter Kang allowed 2 guns top be seized intentionally so that he could fight them on it, but still lost anyways. This is why, although the 407 fps threshold has and still exists for airguns, you will not have a very easy or successful time using it for airsoft.

You offense!

The 407 fps thing is not law at all, rather CBSA and RCMP policy that is not open to change, unless you get Parliament to institute change. This will not come from 1 measly CITT case, or even a court case for that matter.

In the mean time policy is policy...they would need to change it if they ever decided the idea was a pain in the ass for them for some reason...but up till today, airguns are redly available at Canadian tire and other sporting stores nationwide. I cant see them totally banning airguns in Canada
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