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Old October 31st, 2007, 16:27   #30
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Originally Posted by IceTray View Post
While I'm at it, I'll knit our clothing too.

Actually, they use real guns, that shoot blanks, which is obviously more expensive then cheap airsoft. "Paper Mache" made me laugh though, thats the largest lack of detail, scale, areodynamic design, everything.
I'm not sure what aerodynamics have to do with prop guns (assuming you're not throwing them at people), but obviously you have never been on a "real" live set (sorry, home movies with your buddies does not count when you're talking to folks who work on $10M films). Some of us here are/have been REAL SFX techs and prop masters in the film industry, myself included.

Prop guns in movies/tv are almost always rubber or airsoft - because real productions don't balk at a $5K - $10K production budget for prop guns. "HERO" guns (a trade term that you apparently are not aware of) are almost always model kits or dewats, and the concept of "real guns, that shoot blanks" being used on set is, to be honest, laughable - it was the way things were done 20 or 30 years ago, but not any longer. Not only would no one would insure your production due to liability issues, even if you could find someone to insure your shoot, it would cost in the range of 6 figures. As a prop master, if you actually brought an unauthorized REAL firearm on a live production floor, you would most likely get fired on the spot, and likely lose your IATSE membership - meaning you'd never get to work in film/tv again.

The muzzle flashes you see on tv/movies are 95% digital effects nowadays, and the vast majority of guns that "shoot blanks" are PFC (that means Plug Fire Cap) guns that use 5mm blanks - meaning you have to also have a licensed armourer to handle them on set, and there are only like 15 guys in all of Canada that have that accreditation. Additionally, there are only a couple of places in Canada where you can locate PFC guns, but they're certainly not going to lend them to you out of charity, and you can't even afford $100 for a prop.

Do us a favor and forget about using airsoft for film; you'll do more to hurt us and our hobby than you will possible know, and you might well get yourself shot by police in the process if you decide to go running around a dark warehouse or neighborhood dressed in SWAT gear with a black-painted toy assault rifle in hand.

Go to a dollar store, buy a cheap plastic cap gun, and be done with it. It will serve the same purpose in your film, and you won't hurt our hobby or get yourself shot in the process. Alternatively, get enrolled in film school and learn how to do it right.

Make your choices wisely, my young friend, because if you have any ambition of getting into the REAL film/tv industry, you'll realize it's a very small, tight knit community where everyone knows everyone and it's VERY easy to get blackballed because you made a stupid decision in your past....
Originally Posted by TokyoSeven View Post
That was a very bad move on your behalf. Sort of like cutting off your foot for money, but not getting the money first and then letting the person with the money run away.
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