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Old November 6th, 2013, 21:58   #103
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Originally Posted by PrIeSt View Post
Wrong at one paint. it was just won (a Case in the USA) that just because you have a holstered pistol in an OC or CC area, and a cop see's it. his does not allow them to approach or question you unless they have proof you are up to something or have reasonable reason to suspect.

That being said. In Canada if an officer conservation or not approaches a hunter. I can assure you they have procedure's. and if you drew your rifle toward them I'd bet he'd draw on and fire at you.
In Canada you must comply and put the gun down to answer questions or you will be shot.

This case is tragic but is life. and a Police officer's job Is NOT regardless of what some people think, to put their life on the line over everyone elses.

They may flee and leave your ass if it's what's safest. They are not military and can't be ordered to risk their life.

They are first and foremost trained to save their own ass and other people's. So when it come's to Maybe a real gun and I along with 10 others may be shot, or it may not be a real gun they go to the dark side, the higher risk and act accordingly.

This is no one's fault but the kid's. and to a further extent the parent's who let the kid use the gun.

(that whole thing was directed solely at you Ricochet"
I'm not sure you read my post correctly, I don't think I stated anywhere a point that disagrees with what you have said. Perhaps you didn't take certain information as implied? I also mentioned in previous posts the fault lying with the youth, and the need for the parents to be questioned, investigated, whatever.

If you are allowed to have a holstered pistol, then a police officer would not likely interact with you unless they felt they had probable cause. If you are in the US and an officer felt they had probable cause, it's unlikely things would turn out for you if you refused to cooperate.

Police are trained with strict problem solving, and extreme procedural based tactics. In all cases involving a possibly dangerous individual, I'm certain they have to call for backup/support, not to mention protect themselves and the public first and foremost. Police are however responsible for all of their decisions including dealing with unknowns. They are not likely to run unless threat to their health was imminent. They may back off and await support.

So if you were a US officer, what do you think your mandate is? When you are responding to a call (of any kind), and an individual in question has a holstered pistol; are you "A" going to think, "He's allowed to have that, so I can't even question him"; "B" approach him and when he says, "go away, I'm allowed to have my gun", you leave; or "C" follow up on the situation?

I also mentioned an individual would have to "drop, shoulder, etc", which implies the gun is in their hand.


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