Originally Posted by ksuechuc
Could try and see if springers are more your thing...
Five bucks say by NBB he means springer to begin with.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, then you need not fear the outcome of a hundred battles.
If you know your enemy and not yourself, for every victory earned, you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy or yourself, you will succumb, in every battle. -Sun Tzu