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Old November 3rd, 2011, 13:34   #24
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Originally Posted by makinitbig View Post
I think there is a big difference between what he is talking about what average weekend airsoft really is.

I use to use my airsoft glock 19 to train cheaply in my house for the rare times I get range time with my 9mm. About as far as airsoft (truly a game like paintball), and training with live ammo are two completely different things, and shouldn't be mistaken. Kids that see this video that play airsoft, turn 18, then buy there first AR/AK go run it out in the bush alone thinking they're airsoft experience is enough will just end up hurting themselves, or someone else.
I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Part of the reason why I haven't attended a public game in God knows how many years, is due to the lack of trigger control and awareness of where the operator's muzzle is pointed and overall carelessness that airsoft players have when it comes to weapons manipulation.

I can't count the number of times a player's stood right in front of me, started chatting it up with me and left their muzzle pointing in my face and finger on the trigger.

These are my basic annoyances, beyond guys who run around handling their guns like laser guns or upgrading them to ridiculous rates of fire.

This is the disconnect between airsoft and real guns, and also why airsoft has a negative view from many real steel shooters. They see how our general population handles our guns, and how we carry ourselves and draw a general conclusion. I DON'T BLAME THEM.

Some airsofters take it more as a game and don't care for the serious side. That's fine.

Some airsofters take it much more seriously. That's fine as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying skirmishes are bad. I DO enjoy a quick skirmish on occasion, but simple basics such as finger placement and muzzle control are basics that are simply ignored when they shouldn't be.

Thankfully, this is the exact reason why programs like TTAC3's introductory shooting programs and CAPS exists - for real world training. To push our "game" beyond backyard skirmishes with Nerf guns, and to ingrain the muscle memory to treat ALL guns as REAL guns, and to exercise the same rules in airsoft as in the real world.

This is where the connection between training with airsoft starts to begin with real world. Programs like what Brian M offers at TTAC3 has been good at combining the basic education of weapons manipulation in to skirmishes to train people to not only operate more effectively, but safer.

If I'm going to ever need to defend my house or my family against a zombie invasion, I'm sure as hell not going to rely on backyard skirmishing techniques - I'm going to rely on what I've drilled with, and I'm sure as hell going to be glad I've handled my airsoft guns, my body, and my mind as if I were handling real firearms.

With that said, airsoft is a valid tool for real world training. I've had a few real world operators purchase custom made guns for me with the sole purpose of training their draws, holstering, dry firing, trigger control and basement/garage shooting. The biggest attraction for real world shooters, is the value of time and $. The ammunition is cheaper than cartridges, and you don't need to drive out to a range.

Originally Posted by makinitbig View Post
I like that lathe in his garage!
I noticed that as well. *jealous*

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