Originally Posted by Talas
Well, I have read the whole thread. It seems to me the term "serious" has some definition problems. Some seem to be taking the term to mean you feel you are a soldier, some seem to be taking it to mean you are on a sport team. I think the "hardcore" teams who train, coordinate gear and such, are just the difference between beer league softball and competitive softball.
Taking pride in a sport and trying to improve teamwork and coordination in order to win. My budget puts me between two and three. I want to have fun, am having fun. If I wanted to be a soldier I would have signed up. I want to be part of a team who is not just shits and giggles and takes the "sport" seriously, that being said, I do not mind random skirmishes and "shits and giggles games" as well. Its all a matter of mindset. I am not trying to be a "wanna-be" I am trying to set up an authentic kit, mostly because its used in real life because it is effective, it looks better and functions better when used in conjunction to how it was designed. It is also part of the "team" uniform. Even beerleague softball requires jerseys, a minimum amount of "kit" to participate. You show up to a beer league game in a speedo and sequined tanktop, you are going to get tossed. To the mess kit comment, play a few 12 hour milsims, or two day ones, you will be glad for the ability to muck up a quick warm meal.
Even the hardcore "#3" players want to have fun. It seems to me the definition for them is just a bit different. They have fun fielding a cohesive team that works well together and looks badass fielding decent weapons that can get the job assigned to them done.
To me, again, categorizing like this, just lends more to the "Us vs them" attitude I have seen quite a bit. In the end, everyone is in it to have fun, some just roll different. Live and let live. You want to play in a milsim, respect the rules. Skirmish, the same. If you are category three, respect that skirmishes are not meant to be 100%.
I guess my ramble ends with. Respect the differences there are.
+1 cuz its a damn good post.
this is my first year in airsoft and due to my carreer i've dumped about 3k$ in gear in 4 months :| i play with ricochet in brooks and i very much agree and i do the same thing for anyone i talk to about airsoft. so that being said i could be considered a group 2 and 7/8th LOL
i ask how serious they are ABLE to get into the sport. by which i mean "how old are you?" "are you a family oriented person?" "are you saving up for a house?" "do you have golf everyday?". why do i ask these questions? because it dictates the answers i give them.
and the answers tell me what gear they should look into buying and what to expect from the game and/or sport. i have friends that want to be casual players and i have friends that want to be serious players and they each receive different answers.
and for my rant: i agree that the "group 1ers" by which i take as "clearsofters" should not expect to be competitive againsts the other groups nor should they expect the game to be changed so that they have equal opportunity. with this being my first year i am not a great player yet. i've been to one away game and i didn't get a kill in 7 hours, at our home 24 hour milsim i had 3 kills. yet i had a blast at each game.
in conclusion: "are you out there to have fun?" if you answer "yes" then just have fun no matter what group you put yourself or others in. you don't hafta be on the "winning team" or get kills to have fun, as i can contest for. make friends with the guys you are playing with, tell dirty jokes while your respawning and ALWAYS do robs mom AFTER the game is over