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Old December 31st, 2009, 16:28   #42
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Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
What's your point, Mcguyver? If you believe that you are right about the state of affair, the fight's already over, Canada is unrecoverably lost for gun owners, and the so-called PROs are nothing but whiners with no chance.
The fight for gun owners is over. We lost.

Now, we are fighting back from a position of loss to regain rights that have been legislated away. They are gone now. Not much more to lose, is there?

Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
If the ANTIs were as successful as you believe, there should've been consistent support and a steady tabling of even more severe firearm bills since C-68, geared towards getting rid of guns, period. Nope, the only notable firearm reform bill that has gotten any traction in parliament since C-68 is to remove non-restricted registration.
There is no need for anymore legislation. Firearms possession is prohibited in Canada, period. The goverment issues you a "get out of jail free" card that is our PAL system. The second that it or any of the requirements to obtain it expire, you are a criminal. This is a revolving cycle of legal, illegal, legal, etc. How much more illegal can you make something that is already illegal?

Add to this the power of the OIC to institute a nationwide ban and confiscation program that never has to come before Parliament. What more could you possibly legislate?

Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
I know plenty of people who wouldn't own firearms, but wouldn't ban them neither.

If the traditional PRO gun ilks believe that they are the only ones who supports firearm ownership, and anyone who doesn't own a firearm is an ANTI, no wonder they think all of Canada is out to get them. They spend more time preaching to the chore than trying to make a believable argument to the public, because they think the public is already lost.
I'm sure there are lots of people who believe in basic rights like property, search and seizure protections, but unless they are a gun owner, they are not going to be losing those in the way gun owners already have. Will they fight for my rights? Not likely.

Tell me, how would you frame a statement (that will receive media attention) about the right to self-defense and the right to own firearms (and be able to keep them on you and ready to perform said defense)?

It's easy to talk the talk when you don't have to walk the walk.
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